Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Cowboy from New York, Sep 9, 2005.
Thornton will be on the practice squad come Monday. BOOK IT! :
deal - that means the rest of league passed on him.
He's a bust
The rest of the league passed on Patrick Crayton, too.
In other words, not being claimed on waivers means nothing -- especially in the middle of Week 1.
No Thornton is a bust.
I always liked Crayton....as a prospect.
Thornton has shown some cover skills late in preseason, but he came into the league with the reputation as a player who "would go out of his way to avoid contact". He has shown that reputation to be correct with his poor ST play; ST requires hitters...period. He could not beat out Jones or Reeves last year and was inactive while they both played the first two weeks of the season. And now he can't beat them out this year for good reason; he's just not that good.
I disagree that he is a better CB than Reeves as well. Reeves nailed down the #4 CB spot early because he can cover, he is fast, he can hit and he is versatile; three of those 4 terms do not apply to Thornton. Also I have serious doubts that Thornton can cover better than Reeves. Perhaps he can on the short routes because he has quickness but on the deep patterns he will get burned because he is not very fast...not for a CB. So at best he is a #5 CB on this team and he has almost Zero value on ST. A #5 CB had better be able to play on ST and that is why Thornton is on the street as of today.
I agree that he will be brought back to the PS. I just don't understand why other than because he was a 4th round draft pick and getting his development time. The problem is you can't develop the cajones to be a hitter at this late stage and that makes for a soft player. And because he won't hit his being on the field weakens our team.
Dude, you read one scouting report from god knows where and you know for a fact its dead on that he can't hit and is slow? Thornton has very good speed the report you keep touting as the gospel was wrong.
Fast enough to catch up to a ball and intecept one in last weeks' game, at least...
I haven't seen that great speed that you guys keep saying that he has. Maybe he is faster than I have seen but he HAS demonstrated that he is reluctant to hit. His tackling is very weak and it is the reason he is so poor on ST.
BTW I have read in more than one report that he "lacked ideal speed" though you are right in that only one of them actually called him "slow". He is credited with being "quick" but I have never read anyone say he was fast except for some of his homers here on the board. Do you have something to prove otherwise? I have never seen his combine stats (I just couldn't find them) so I don't know what he timed in the 40 there but the only report that I have seen on his 40 time put it in the 4.6 range. So go ahead and prove me and the scouting reports wrong; so far Thornton hasn't.
Going into last year's draft, Thornton's times at the Combine and at Georgia's Pro Day were between 4.42 and 4.48, which is fast enough.
I love seeing arrogant know it alls get shot down out of the sky and then clam up like a chastity belt. Too funny.
Ok that is fast enough...he still won't hit and that is his biggest weakness and the reason he is on the street.
You can only go with the evidence presented to you. The evidence I had said he wan't that fast but that was never his biggest problem anyway. Glad you had a laugh if it suits your sense of humor...
I wasn't talking about you, but okay.
I see...sorry for the misinterpretation. It's just that the last exchange in this thread was between me and the guys maintaining that Thornton had speed which I didn't believe. I guess I just jumped to conclusions about your post since you didn’t specify. It’s all good. Have a good evening.
Are you speaking of training camp "depth charts"?
At one point in our camp this year, Jacob Rogers was a starter.
Fact is that Thornton was inactive for all the games last year until week four. Jones and Reeves were the backups behind Hunter and Newman. So really what you are implying is that Thornton was really good enough corner to be second string, yet did not get active? He was inactive against Washington, Reeves came in and played. Then it was Reeves was who started against the Giants. Not Thornton.
Again, why would Coach Parcells be in the habit of releasing players who are better? The special teams excuse does not fly. And even if you would like to cling to that to support your theory that Thornton is really a better player, isn't part of his job as a professional to find a way to make the team? It worked for Keith Davis.
Any way you slice it, he was a disappointment as a 4th round draft choice and has been outplayed and outhustled by a couple of seventh rounders.
Thornton was a bust. Reach pick in the 4th round by most all accounts.
He proved that out. He's not going to beat out Jones, Reeves sitting on the couch. Not to mention another draft class coming up. Lets move on - This is football, football players can play multiple positions and plsy ST. Football players will be dressed Sunday.
Apparently Thornton ran over Nors' dog.
I love those "huge busts" taken with the 121st pick. Soooo much invested, soooo much to lose.
Not by Gosselin's. He said Thornton was taken right about where he was projected.
Or do you believe Frank Coyle over Gosselin?
Some people hated Thornton from the start for one reason or another and refuse to believe he might not be worthless. It's really strange.
As far as the guy's status, I'd bet you that if Nate Jones had torn up his knee last year and Thornton had been healthy, Parakeet would be the one gone. And before someone says (again) that Thornton was inactive early in the year, so what? We're going to condemn a rookie fourth rounder because he starts slow the first four or five weeks of his career?
that picture is too much