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Barron revisited

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by btcutter, Apr 16, 2012.

  1. btcutter

    btcutter Well-Known Member

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    Both Casserly AND Mayock have Barron as top 10 player overall in this draft.

    Why does this BOARD hate Barron?

    All I see are the youtube highlights so I got nothing else to go on. I see him as a day 1 starter for us. In fact I am not sure we will get a shot at thim at #14 anymore.
  2. pupulehaole

    pupulehaole Well-Known Member

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    Since he doesn't run a 4.35 he's not a ballhawk, he's just a in the box safety :D lol all kidding aside I like Barron and will be happy to have him back there w/ Sensabaugh.
  3. Bowdown27

    Bowdown27 Well-Known Member

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    I don't think anyone hates him. They just want other positions first. Oline and dline mostly. I'm still on Barron bandwagon
  4. CowboysLaw87

    CowboysLaw87 Active Member

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    The guy is a squeaky clean prospect. Not elite in any category but prototype size, speed, tackling ability, downhill coverage, football IQ, productivity/experience, intangibles.

    The ONLY area of his game that's isn't necessarily at a 1st round level is his deep half coverage, but even that is probably above average compared to starting NFL safeties.

    The OP is right that we'd be lucky to have a shot at him at #14. He's a plug and play upper echelon SS with the physical traits and character that we currently lack in the secondary. It baffles me why so many have hated on him. It's as if people think every 1st round safety needs to run a 4.3 and cover like Reed. There's only one Reed... lesser talents than he are deserving of mid-1st round picks.
  5. Canadian BoyzFan

    Canadian BoyzFan Active Member

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    I wont freak out but would prefer Cox or DeCastro.
  6. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    I don't hate 'em. I could live with him if the team wants to go that direction. I see the value in improving the secondary and in adding another blitzer.

    Not too impressed with his highlights, but that's not much to go on. Mostly, I just don't like the idea of taking the first safety off the board earlier than he was originally slotted to go when he compares unfavorably to the best safeties from recent drafts. That's not a reason not to take him, though.
  7. johnnyd

    johnnyd Active Member

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    agreed
  8. theogt

    theogt Surrealist Zone Supporter

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    Some people wrongly believe he's an in-the-box safety. They believe that because they read someone on the board say it, who read someone else on the board say it, etc. It's just one of those odd things. Most realize he's not at all an in-the-box safety.
  9. CATCH17

    CATCH17 1st Round Pick

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    Because Barron isn't great at anything..

    Hopefully he'll end up being a Lawyer Milloy type if we draft him though.

    When you draft a safety in the top half of the 1st round you'd hope he is a but of a playmaker.
  10. Hostile

    Hostile Tacos are a good investment Zone Supporter

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    I don't hate him. In fact I think he will be our pick.

    I just do not agree that he is the direction we should go.
  11. theogt

    theogt Surrealist Zone Supporter

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    He's actually the opposite of this. He's one of those rare playmaker types at safety. I'd say he's a once every other draft type of player at the safety position. People seriously undervalue this type of safety, and that's great for us.
  12. btcutter

    btcutter Well-Known Member

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    All the high lights showed him making plays while Kirpatrick has lost his man. Be nice if Barron can make plays when Scandrick loses his man.:D
  13. Eskimo

    Eskimo Well-Known Member

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    Maybe, but I just don't think he compares well to Earl Thomas who was drafted at #12 overall in the 2010 draft. That was a S worthy of a high first round pick because of his ball skills and coverage ability. Barron just isn't elite in those skills.

    The other thing I don't like about Barron is his soft tissue strength. He has had issues with a double sports hernia and a torn pectoral muscle. I fear he will always be nicked up in the NFL.
  14. Bluefin

    Bluefin Well-Known Member

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    Mark Barron was arrested before spring practice last year for hindering prosecution, police felt he wasn't being completely truthful about a one car accident in his hometown of Mobile. Alabama.

    Barron's cousin was reportedly driving the car and Mark wouldn't give authorities his name.

    link
  15. theogt

    theogt Surrealist Zone Supporter

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    I think he compares very well. More experienced, smarter, more crafty, the general of your secondary. Other than 40 time, Barron has Thomas beat on athletics as well (i.e., better vertical and better broad jump). Earl Thomas's youth and one good season of production dinged him as a prospect, so I think he was taken about where he should have been (or later). And that's the same range that Barron should be taken in. Personally, I'd take either of those guys over a number of other guys that were, or will, be taken higher than them.
  16. Vanilla2

    Vanilla2 Well-Known Member

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    I'd be happy if Barron was the pick.
  17. GloryDaysRBack

    GloryDaysRBack Well-Known Member

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    Earl Thomas and his 1 FF and 2 INTs last year..not exactly a playmaker..not saying he isnt a good safety..but those arent ballhawk #s
  18. Dash28

    Dash28 Felis silvestris catus

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    Barron is high on my list 14.

    DeCastro
    Cox
    Barron
    Ingram
    Coples(if coaches/scouts confident in his attitude and motor)
  19. JBell523

    JBell523 That's my Quarterback

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    I'm starting to come around to the idea of Barron at 14. Dude ran in the 4.5's at 80-90%. Barron says he's more of a 4.4 guy and I have no reason to think he's a liar. Throw in his 4.03 shuttle and 6.60 three cone and you got some elite athleticism at the safety position.

    Our safeties have been either been invisible or getting torched for the past half decade. It'd be nice to get a playmaker back there.
  20. Rogerthat12

    Rogerthat12 DWAREZ

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    I think Barron instantly upgrades our secondary, he should be a solid S that we have been missing for years.

    However, I still like Fletcher Cox and DeCastro possibly before him with respect to immediate impact.

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