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Beast Take On Debate

Discussion in 'Political Zone' started by Beast_from_East, Oct 16, 2008.

  1. Beast_from_East

    Beast_from_East Well-Known Member

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    Hey fellas, sorry I could not join yall tonight in the debate thread.

    I just watched the debate replay and I dont think McCain had the game-changer that he needed.

    The split screen was brutal for McCain, all the face grimaces, rapid blinking, audible deep breaths, rolling the eyes, and gritting his teeth.

    He looked mad and just flat angry tonight. I dont know if it was directed at Obama or trailing in the polls, or whatever. It just didnt come across very good on TV.

    Now Obama did sniker a couple of times and looked like he was laughing at McCain when there was nothing funny said, some people say that was being cocky.

    McCain did a good job of saying "I am not Bush, you should have run 4 years ago", but Obama countered effectively saying that he mistaken McCain for Bush because the policies are the same or something like that. McCain never elaborated on specific policies and how he will be fundementally different, he needed to give specifics or people will not believe it, just campaign talk.

    They are making a big deal of McCain saying that the "health" of the mother is not that important in the abortion debate. He may get some flack for this from the Women's groups they are saying, I really didnt think it was that big of a gaffe myself but we will see.

    Overall, no game changer and I doubt the polls will move very much. If McCain has any hope of closing the gap he has to answer one single question that he has failed to do in his entire campaign:

    How is McCain fundementally different from Bush on the majority of the issues? He cant just say it, he must specifically state how his tax policy, his healthcare policy, his foreign policy, ect.....is not slightly different, but FUNDEMENTALLY DIFFERENT from Bush.

    If he cannot answer this question then Obama will win in a landslide.
  2. wrongway

    wrongway New Member

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    It is no wonder he looks angry,I am pissed too. This country is seemingly full of Americans that don't like America and their champion is Barry O. Come to me you dimwits, pay no attention to the man behind the curtains says Obama.
    Better speaker yes, better man/president not by a mile. Welcome to the socialist states of America next step communism. Sickening!
  3. canters

    canters Active Member

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    McCain does not have the stomach for this. Period. He left a bunch of points on the field last night. Baring some sort of terrorist issue or foreign crisis, Barry will win by 5-6 points.
  4. VCDefectors

    VCDefectors Benched

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    McCain really had no chance to "turn it around". His campaign was doomed from the start. He sucks and it's been fun watching Republicans try 1,000 different ways to sell this ticket.

    The Republican Party is in serious trouble and those who follow/worship the so-called Reagan legacy/tradition seriously need to take a look at themselves. 80s style conservativism and the Dittohead Nation -- that stuff has run its course and doesn't work anymore. It's outdated and due for a serious makeover.
  5. Route 66

    Route 66 Active Member

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    There are a lot of Democrats such as yourself who can listen to a cow moo every day and get something out of it. The only thing Obama is good at is hitting the play button on his recorded speech on several issues and say the same things over and over. "I can see your mouth moving but I can't hear what you are sayin'"
  6. Wheat

    Wheat Philosopher

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    You are 100% right....and if the guy you're running against can stay on message, or prove his point in a way that doesn't appear like he's trying to throw as much **** against the wall to see what sticks. That cow would be steak by now.
  7. joseephuss

    joseephuss Well-Known Member

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    Did you catch the Daily Show the other day? They played McCain's so called new stump speech he gave the other day along side with the speech he gave at the Republican convention. They were nearly identical.

    That is nothing new. Every person that runs for president has several ideas that they repeat over and over. That is because they are playing in front of different towns and different crowds every night. It is like a band and a set list or a touring comic. Same songs or jokes every night, just performed in different places. The thing that made McCain's speech comical was that it was promoted as drastically different.
  8. Route 66

    Route 66 Active Member

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    McCain was detailed in his replies last night plain and simple and all Obama did was revert to his recorded speech. Yes both parties are repetitive and thats simply politics but McCain without question dealt with issues and was the more honest candidate last night.
  9. canters

    canters Active Member

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    How can McCan compete with a campaign that promises to take from succesful people and give to others who for whatever reason, are not habing as much success? Something for nothing is hard to compete with.

    That being said, McCain has not run a good campaign. He picked us own staffers and intentionally stayed away from the Bushies, who whatever you may think, know how to campaign.
  10. Sasquatch

    Sasquatch Lost in the Woods

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    This is critical now since the campaign's attempt to make the election a referendum on Obama's readiness and trustworthiness has been an abysmal failure.

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