Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by ehcrossing, Feb 2, 2014.
Is this seattle D one of the best ever? If not which team had the best D.
Having said that, I haven't seen a defense play that physically in a Superbowl since the 85 Bears. I was MIGHTY impressed and feel a sense of great satisfaction watching that defense play tonight. It was a joy to behold.
They were far more impressive to me than the 1985 Bears who whipped up on a fairly hapless and one dimensional Patriot team. And the Ravens of '00 beat one of the least qualified SB teams ever.
This was an all-timer performance if you look at what they were facing.
All week, people were all about wanting to go defense but thought eventually the Broncos were just going to kill them. Did not happen.
that is a great list
The 02 Bucs was a crazy good defense that year too.
The question was 'Is the Seattle D the best ever?". They probably played the best defensive game ever considering they were playing the highest scoring team in NFL history led by the 5 time NFL MVP.
I still go with the 85 Bears as the best defense in my lifetime looking at regular season and playoffs.
If you go by the whole year, the 1985 Bears killed it. Every week.
The Seahawks defense was not to that level all season, but they nailed it tonight.
where does the 77 Doomsday Defense rank?
85 Bears easily. Only 74/75 Steelers even enter the conversation, dominated and humiliated Vikings in XI. 69 Chiefs were really dominant too.
Very good. Probably not top 10.
Maybe the best of all time? The 'Gritz Blitz' 77 Falcons:
Points allowed per game - 9
Yards allowed per game - 231
Yards per play in a season - 3.7
Pass defense - 1300 yards
Forced Turnovers - 48
Unfortunately for them, their offense was the worst in the NFL.
The 2000 Ravens beat more than just the Giants. I'll have to check again, but I remember seeing a stat showing that they gave up around a full 5 points less per game than the Seahawks did this year. And also, their defense score more points than they allowed over the duration of the post-season.
The Ravens were easily a more dominant defense, IMO. Can't knock them for not being tested.
Plus tonight. I really felt like Denver came unglued after that safety. This performance really reminded me of the '08 Cowboys and Eagles finale. Just a snowball effect.
I think Seattle clearly would've won anyway, but I think it got ugly because of the early screw up.
it was a massacre that day.
the 70's defense was a nightmare for a whole decade..
The Ravens played ... Kerry Collins.
The Bears played ... see above.
The Buccaneers played ... Rich Gannon.
The Seahawks played ... Peyton Manning, quarterback extraordinaire and the architect behind the greatest offense ever. Plus, they're playing in a league that has hamstring defenses, unlike the previous great defenses.
This is solely my opinion, but I'm giving the nod to the Seahawks.
Your point is well taken -- I agree beating 5 time MVP Manning like the Seahawks did this evening is beyond amazing and I'll never forget the performance -- it was almost surreal.
To give credit where credit is due, the 2002 Bucs the Raiders led by Rich Gannon was the MVP of the league the year they played in the Superbowl.
Considering the rules and style of play of today's NFL, it very well might be.
Good point, but there was also a lot of finger pointing after that game about Callahan outsmarting himself with the game plan, plus Gruden was coaching against his own team. If anyone knew what would trip up Gannon it was Chucky, who had developed him from a journeyman QB in the first place.
That was one of the most dominant defensive performances I have ever seen in a SB, especially considering they were going against that juggernaut offense. The 2007 Giants were close.
Again, I was going off the individual game performance. The Seahawks were great all year. The Bears were all timer all year and rolled over the Patriots. That said, the Seahawks cannot be denied their accolades.
All we heard all week was that Manning and the Broncos O were unstoppable. They reduced them and him to blubbering fools today.
There was plenty of time and opportunity to recover from the safety. Seattle's offense was not exactly clicking early, in fact, they did not get on track all game.
not sure how the back up qb survived this hit.
hollywood was coming with bad intensions...