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Both Kowalski and Arkin looking good?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by RSM94, Jul 26, 2013.

  1. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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  2. Yakuza Rich

    Yakuza Rich Well-Known Member

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    I don't recall anybody saying that Arkin looked great last preseason. There was often talks about how poorly he had progressed and had their doubts of him making the team and what his future with the team was.

    I think the issue we often see with O-Linemen is pretty common. Most coaches are solely focused on technique and sometimes when you have perfect technique you still get beat if the defender is bigger, stronger or faster. You hope that good technique will let your guy win more often than not. So all it means to me is that Arkin and Kowalski are doing what the coaches are asking for them. And that's it.




    YR
  3. AsthmaField

    AsthmaField Outta bounds

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    I'm with you there. I can't remember it at all from last preseason. I just remember hearing over and over about him getting pushed back into the QB.
  4. FuzzyLumpkins

    FuzzyLumpkins The Boognish

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    This is from Vela:

    I am sure that I saw others I am looking for them now. I esteem Vela but I may have mistaken someone else for Broaddus.

    http://www.cowboysnation.com/
  5. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    Your probably referring to my reaction to Mac Engel's report. I didn't like that because it was stupid and lazy, not because it was negative. There are plenty of negative player reports, and I take most of them in stride this time of year because I expect them with the 90 man roster.
  6. Irvin88_4life

    Irvin88_4life Active Member

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    It seems you have trouble with knowing that Houck isn't the OL coach anymore and now we have a proven guy that has developed OL in Callahan. So you have been a fan for 60 years? Thats funny didn't know Dallas was around 60 years ago but what do I know right, I guess I was mistaken that Dallas got the Cowboys about 53 years ago.

    Dude do me a favor and not tell me what I fail to realize or what I know. I can see with my own two eyes and just because I talk about positive things you say that I want to ignore the facts because they don't add up. You make no sense what so ever and don't try to act like you know me pal because you don't. Thank you have a nice day
  7. JerryFan

    JerryFan Active Member

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    Houck was a more then proven OL coach.
  8. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    I was being nice to the kid and did not mention Houck's resume
  9. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    Kind of kills your whole argument when you talk about Callahan replacing Houck and how that's an upgrade. Shows a glaring lack of knowledge of the history of the league.
  10. RoyTheHammer

    RoyTheHammer Well-Known Member

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    How good of a job was Houck doing his last couple years here? John Madden was a great football mind at one point.. how were his last few years of broadcasting?

    Age catches up with you.. let's not pretend that just because someone has been great at something, that they always will be.
  11. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    He was doing as good of a job as he could. You can't make stiffs good players.

    I wondered if age caught up to Houck. Then I saw Tyron Smith flourish as a rookie under Houck his last year. That told me it was just talent. Callahan came in last year. He did no better. They need players. Bill Callahan is not, in any way, a better OL coach than Hudson Houck. He's merely the guy we have now. So the agenda is to make it appear that way.
  12. RoyTheHammer

    RoyTheHammer Well-Known Member

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    lol burm..

    You just stated earlier in the thread that we have been horrible at developing lineman since the 90's.

    Well, Houck was back here for 4 years from 2008-2011 seasons, so what does that say about the job he did recently, huh "kid"?
  13. RoyTheHammer

    RoyTheHammer Well-Known Member

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    Tyron Smith was a top 10 pick and a freak talent. Is it really saying much that he played well at the RT position his rookie year? I'd be more impressed if Houck had been able to develop some of the non-sure thing picks we drafted over his last years here. I think that's what you're looking for in a good OL coach.. not someone who can get elite players to play well. You could bring almost anyone in if that's all you were looking for.
  14. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    Yes. He was a 21 year old rookie who should have been overwhelmed entering the league. He wasn't. He thrived under Houck's coaching.

    The Cowboys have had a talent issue along the OL. The coaching has been more than fine. This is why Bill Callahan did absolutely nothing last year to fix the problem. He needs players.
  15. RoyTheHammer

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    Should he have been? I think that's pretty much just your own opinion. Many scouts and teams had a very high grade on him for a reason, and again, being a top 10 pick and a freak talent like he is, and playing the less difficult of the two tackle positions, i don't think many people at all expected him to come in here and struggle just because of his age.

    I have no doubt we need to upgrade the talent along the OL.. just saying Houck did nothing really to develop any kind of talent in his last 4 years here. I'll give Callahan more than 1 season to determine if he can do any better.. but it certainly looks like he's off to a good start with how Arkin is looking, guys like Kowalski and Leary could earn some substantial time this year, even Costa, etc. (Kowalski imo, deserves to start somewhere along the line this year.)
  16. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    Yes. He should have been. We all work off our own opinions. You saying Houck was a problem is your opinion. I saw no change for the better under Bill Callahan to validate that. What I saw was another good OL coach who doesn't have the talent to succeed.

    Give Houck talent, he'll do well. Same with Callahan. The Cowboys don't have the talent.
  17. Risen Star

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    You have to have NFL talent to develop. The complete slop that has gone through Dallas at these positions in recent years weren't NFL caliber players. Who did we miss out on? Who left here only to develop into a real player somewhere else?

    Arkin, Costa, Kowalski, Leary.....you are scraping the bottom of the barrel with these players. Not a single one of those guys has ever even flashed NFL talent yet. They're just the guys we have.
  18. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    Top ten picks at OT are taken high *because* they are walk-on starters. Plus we moved him to the right side to make the transition easier.

    Our biggest OL problems last year had to do with the shakeup to interior positions starting early in camp, playing our fourth option at Center, and the struggling at RT. Bernadeau's early surgery was an issue, too. The plan for our OL under Callahan is behind schedule, but they obviously have a plan they're comfortable with.
  19. RoyTheHammer

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    Im saying in only one year here, im seeing more improvement and development among our later round draft picks and UDFA's than in Houck's last 4 years here.. and that a top 10 draft pick who is basically a sure thing, elite talent with freak althetic ability playing well isn't much proof to most people that an OL coach is doing a great job. That's all. Not trying to turn this into a drawn out back and forth, so agree to disagree i guess.

    Mainly i just objected to the people throwing the one poster under the bus because he didn't think Houck was doing a super great job in his final years here. Yes, he had been a great OL coach, but i think age caught up to him in his final stint with us.
  20. RoyTheHammer

    RoyTheHammer Well-Known Member

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    Exactly my point.. and yes, there were alot of injuries on the line last year.

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