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Brandon Moore news?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by FLCowboyFan, Mar 30, 2013.

  1. dantheman41

    dantheman41 Active Member

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    I don't know how you could possibly say this. What was the problem then? Both guards at times were bad, especially Bernadeau. Free was awful at times as well. Smith and Cook were both average to above average
  2. BIGDen

    BIGDen Dr. Freakasaurus

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    This. This. This. And...uhhh...THIS!!!!!
  3. TheSport78

    TheSport78 The Excellence of Execution

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    If we sign Moore, it's pretty much a given that Cook or Livings will be cut.

    Cook was average in pass protection but absolutely horrific at run blocking, like you said. It all starts with having a physical and tough offensive line. Cook is a guy who belongs on the street as a FA, and someone you sign in mid-season if an injury occurs to an OL.

    However, if they sign Moore, he will be a starter, so I wouldn't be surprised if Livings gets cut.
  4. dantheman41

    dantheman41 Active Member

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    I agree that Moore is an upgrade over both and should be a starter. But to be honest Cook and Livings were a ton better then Bernadeau and Free. And if those 2 are still starting I'm going to be sick. Cook was better then average against the pass dude trust me. Watch the film. He often times was 1 on 1 with DT and barely moved back
  5. TheSport78

    TheSport78 The Excellence of Execution

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    I'm with you that Free and Bernadeau shouldn't be starters. If I had it my way, this would be my OL in 2013:

    LT: Tyron Smith
    LG: Jonathan Cooper
    C: Phil Costa
    RG: Brandon Moore
    RT: Jeremy Parnell or a FA like Eric Winston

    The longer FA goes on, the more Winston's price goes down. I'd love a training camp competition between Winston and Parnell.

    Bernadeau is best suited as a backup, swing guy, while Free doesn't deserve a roster spot IMO.
  6. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    You've got to replace Costa if you're ever going to have a quality OL.

    There are several options in the draft. Justin Pugh is Mel's #1 ranked C right now. He'd walk in and beat out Costa in his sleep.
  7. TheSport78

    TheSport78 The Excellence of Execution

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    I'm not a big Costa fan, but I don't think it's realistic to replace 4 starters in one offseason on the OL. Let's see what happens when you actually surround the guy with LEGIT guards (Moore and Cooper), and not two scrubs like Livings and Bernadeau.

    I think we'll have to live with a Costa/Bernadeau competition during camp.

    Remember, Cooper can reportedly play center as well. We need Cooper!
  8. dantheman41

    dantheman41 Active Member

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    To be honest, I think Costa is a better player then Bernadeau. And has more upside. Not that he is GREAT, but if its a competition between the two of them I fully expect Costa to beat out Bernadeau
  9. TheSport78

    TheSport78 The Excellence of Execution

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    Totally agree.
  10. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    Cook's value is that he can play decently basically 4 positions on the line. All except LT. That kind of utility is very hard to find. On game days he can replace two players on the active roster.
  11. Fredd

    Fredd Well-Known Member

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    While I agree with this, I think that if we improve our Guards, the Berny becomes the interior back-up...he could back up any of the 3 interior positions, and better than Cook. This assumes that Costa wins the starting Center gig
  12. Teague31

    Teague31 Defender of the Star

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    Barring injury I would be shocked if Costa isn't starting at center. That being said I would like to see Bern there full time to see what he can do
  13. dantheman41

    dantheman41 Active Member

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    Wouldn't say better then Cook, but younger with probably a higher ceiling
  14. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    we could have just 2 O linemen on the active roster besides the starters. Someone that can play LT and Cook. Usually we have 3. That extra body can come in real handy. Actually in a pinch Cook could probably play LT acceptably for the rest of the game; have one other guy that can play C and G (Bernie) and we have reasonable insurance for the game. Of course it is always possible to lose 3 OL in a game but just how often has that happened anywhere ever?
  15. Oh_Canada

    Oh_Canada Well-Known Member

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    Moore is a perfect fit for this team, it would allow them to go into the draft knowing they could draft a guard that won't neccessarily need to start next season.
    Character wise he fits JG's "RKG" strategy and has a history with Callahan-a match made in football heaven.
    I think Jerry will get this done.
  16. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    The question with Moore is not would he help, but how much would he help?
    They just added two semi-JAG guards last year who still have contracts going forward. If we take on another semi-JAG contract at the same position, it makes you wonder what the marginal return will be.
    If we think it's more than just a small upgrade, go for it. It just always worries me that people overestimate what you don't have vs what you have....grass greener thing.
    I suspect he is enough better to bring him in.
    As long as we still draft a Guard.
  17. AmishCowboy

    AmishCowboy if you ain't first, you're last

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    :hammer:
  18. Fla Cowpoke

    Fla Cowpoke Well-Known Member

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    Moore is hardly a JAG.

    He would be a major upgrade. And yes, I would love to see us sign him and draft a guard early.
  19. speedkilz88

    speedkilz88 Well-Known Member

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    Cook along with being horrible in run blocking was having major problems with getting the snap off on time which was causing almost all of the false starts by the other guys. One of Bernadeau's biggest problem was coming off the snap late and that may have been due to not knowing if Cook was going to snap it.
  20. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    That was the question....if he's more than slight upgrade, then it's worth it

    There are many in the NFL that would say he's the next level up from JAG...or what I call semi-JAG.

    I'm on board with getting him for several reasons--certainly being on board with Callahan is big.

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