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Braylon Edwards or Mike Williams. Mock Draft???

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by Cajuncowboy, Dec 4, 2004.

  1. Cajuncowboy

    Cajuncowboy Preacher From The Black Lagoon

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  2. Champsheart

    Champsheart Active Member

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    All I can say is this is a horribly put together Mock.
  3. SALADIN

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    Braylon Edwards stretches the field better than Williams does. Close call but I'm going with the faster Edwards.

    This most only be SR's. Now way SF goes with Rolle over Lienart and Rogers and no way Orten gets picked before either one of them.

    Although I wouldn't be upset to see Dallas go with defense with the two 1st and hope that Terrance Murphy finds his way to the 2nd.
  4. Kevlee06

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    Mike Williams' body control/hands/size negate any speed advantage that Edwards might hold. Plain and simple. As a freshman Williams was a better player than Edwards is RIGHT NOW. Imagine what kind of player he is gonna be.
    Stay away from Michigan WR's PLEASE Cowboys.
  5. Hostile

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    I couldn't agree more.

    Michigan fans do not like Braylon Edwards. That ought to send up huge red flags.
  6. SALADIN

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    We'll agree to disagree but you must not have seen much of Edwards the last few years. And that speed advantage will go along way when trying to get separation from the better athletes in the NFL which Williams hasn't been able to do very well.

    Here's a mock draft that includes underclass men

    1 San Francisco *Matt Leinart QB Southern California
    2 Miami *Aaron Rodgers QB California
    3 Carolina Braylon Edwards WR Michigan
    4 Tampa Bay Cedric Benson RB Texas
    5 Tennessee *Ahmad Brooks LB Virginia
    6 Washington *Mathias Kiwanuka DE Boston College
    7 Dallas (from Buffalo) Antrel Rolle CB Miami
    8 Oakland *Mike Williams WR Southern California
    9 Kansas City Marlin Jackson CB Michigan
    10 Dallas *Rodrique Wright DT Texas
    11 Cleveland Erasmus James DE Wisconsin
    12 Arizona Andrew Walter QB Arizona State
    13 New Orleans Derrick Johnson LB Texas
    14 Chicago Mark Clayton WR Oklahoma
    15 Houston Carnell Williams RB Auburn
    16 Detroit *Thomas Davis FS Georgia
    17 Cincinnati Corey Webster CB LSU
    18 Seattle Elton Brown OG Virginia
    19 St. Louis David Pollack DE Georgia
    20 Green Bay Marcus Spears DE LSU
    21 Minnesota *Orien Harris DT Miami
    22 San Diego (from NY Giants) *Andrew Whitworth OT LSU
    23 Denver *Heath Miller TE Virginia
    24 San Diego *A.J. Hawk LB Ohio State
    25 New York Jets Carlos Rogers CB Auburn
    26 Jacksonville *Marcus McNeill OT Auburn
    27 Baltimore Alex Barron OT Florida State
    28 Indianapolis Ronnie Brown RB Auburn
    29 Atlanta Wesley Britt OT Alabama
    30 New England Kevin Burnett LB Tennessee
    31 Philadelphia *Abdul Hodge LB Iowa
    32 Pittsburgh Jammal Brown OT Oklahoma


    Second round 33 Philadelphia (from Miami) Shaun Cody DT Southern California
    34 San Francisco Anttaj Hawthorne DT Wisconsin
    35 Carolina Michael Munoz OT Tennessee
    36 Tennessee Charlie Frye QB Akron
    37 New Orleans (from Washington) *Brodney Pool FS Oklahoma
    38 Buffalo *Max Jean-Gilles OT Georgia
    39 Oakland *DeAngelo Williams RB Memphis
    40 Kansas City Dan Cody DE Oklahoma
    41 Dallas Donte Nicholson SS Oklahoma
    42 Cleveland *Winston Justice OT Southern California
    43 Tampa Bay C.J. Brooks OT Maryland
    44 Green Bay (from New Orleans) *Odell Thurman LB Georgia
    45 Chicago David Baas OG Michigan
    46 Houston Travis Johnson DT Florida State
    47 Detroit *Adam Jones CB West Virginia
    48 Cincinnati Mike Patterson DT Southern California
    49 Arizona *Jimmy Williams CB Virginia Tech
    50 St. Louis Darrent Williams CB Oklahoma State
    51 Green Bay Jammal Brimmer SS UNLV
    52 Minnesota *Daryl Blackstock LB Virginia
    53 New York Giants Anthony Alabi OT Texas Christian
    54 Seattle Barrett Ruud LB Nebraska
    55 San Diego Matt Roth DE Iowa
    56 New York Jets Dan Buenning OG Wisconsin
    57 Jacksonville *Loren Howard DE Northwestern
    58 Baltimore Terrance Murphy WR Texas A&M
    59 Indianapolis Kirk Morrison LB San Diego State
    60 Denver Chris Canty DE Virginia
    61 Atlanta J.R. Russell WR Louisville
    62 New England Khalif Barnes OT Washington
    63 Philadelphia *Frank Gore RB Miami
    64 Pittsburgh Michael Boley LB Southern Mississippi
  7. jdnalls

    jdnalls New Member

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    SWEET!!!!!
  8. Yeagermeister

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    Too bad we need a FS not a SS
  9. da_boyz_mk

    da_boyz_mk How 'Bout Dem Cowboys

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    in my opinion we won't be drafting a WR in the 1st round. now i'm not saying that i don't want them to but i think bill will try to reload on the defensive side of the ball.

    we all know what bill thinks of keyshawn and terry, and he seems to like quincy and terrence. we might look to pick one up later in the draft but i would be surprised if we went WR in the 1st round.

    who knows though we might try to fix the defense through free agency too.
  10. Woods

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    I think we'll end up drafting defense in the 1st round as well.

    However, this time around, I hope we pick at least two good FAs BEFORE the draft so we truly can take the best player available. Our most obvious needs are DE, DT, CB, and FS. IF we can shore up at least 2 of these positions before the draft, I'll be breathing a lot easier . . . .

    Also, I think Carolina may take on OT with their 1st, rather than a WR.
  11. Hollywood Henderson

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    Bill knows we need playmakers...
    Go for the best playmakers when we pick!

    If Edwards is there, he would be a GREAT pick! So says this MICHIGAN fan!
    I have watched him for years and he would be a huge asset to making the Cowboys champs again!

    I like both Key & Glenn, but they will be here for 2 years more at the most...Let Edwards develop with Hensen, Witten & J.Jones and the triplets would be back baby!

    Almost the same size as Williams, with better speed & RAC ability!

    We can fill needs on D in FA and by firing Zimmy!
  12. AsthmaField

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    I'll take a big WR with average speed and great hands over a big WR with great speed and questionable hands any day of the week. To me that's the biggest thing for a WR in the NFL... you have to be a ball athlete. You have to be able to time your jumps and have the hands to snatch the ball. Catching the ball, afterall, is what a WR is asked to do.

    Speed or not, Williams is gonna be special. Edwards is just going to be another Quincy Morgan. Good, not great.
  13. Hostile

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    If any team takes Edwards over Williams it will look just as stupid as Tennessee did/does for taking Kevin Dyson over Randy Moss.
  14. Hollywood Henderson

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    Obviously people have not seen enough of Edwards to know how great his hands are...Sure I have seen him (and every other WR drop a few) BUT...

    I have seen him SNAG great catches with ONE hand for TD's!

    He has also put of VERY impressive numbers while working this year with a true freshman QB...yes Quite Impressive as well!

    He will be a GREAT WR...Lets see how it all turns out...I think Edwars will be drafted before Williams AND be a much bigger impact player...easy!
  15. AsthmaField

    AsthmaField Outta bounds

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    Yup. I don't see how any team could really take Edwards over Williams. I know teams become enamored with 40's, wonderlics, and 20 yard shuttles around mid Feb., but usually around draft time they come to their senses and remember what the guys did playing football.

    Still, every year there are exceptions, so you never know.

    God, I'll be upset if we take Edwards and Williams is still there.
  16. SALADIN

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    http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4654&highlight=interchangeable

    Now I've always known this from Edwards and Dungy's defenses' (defenses the Cowboys defense is based on) but fail to understand why other Cowboy fans just can't seem to get.

    Just heard on B.A.D. radio that Bob Sturm have a little chat with Zimm this morning about maybe moving Roy up to play in Woody's spot. And Zimm said (probably for the 100th time) that in this sceeme the Safeties are basicly interchangable.

    Meaning there is no TRUE SS or FS. On one play maybe one of the two may blitz or drop back into cover.

    I bring this up because I think that far too many tend to underate Roy's coverage ability. And while I understand that he makes many plays the closer he is to the L.O.S. wouldn't it also stand to reason that that is because there is more activity the closer you get to the line of scrimage. More chances for tackles behind the L.O.S., more chances to blitz and put preasure on the QB, more sack opportunities, more chances for forced fumbles and Fumble recoveries. More of a chance to blow up screens, short curls and quick slants, and dump off passes. Woody made a reputation for doing just the same thing. Roy is far better a conver man than most give him credit for, whether its in the Box or 25 yards downfield Roy will always be a playmaker.

    So whoever you have in mind to play 'FS' please understand that they also should have just as much playmaking ability to play in the box at 'SS'.

    'k


    http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/storypage.php?Story_ID=514&Category=cardinals

    Safeties

    Like centers on offense, safeties rarely come along in bunches. At best you get one or two good ones per year. This year boasts a lot of prospects, though. Thomas Davis (Georgia) is a junior who likes to imitate Roy Williams (Cowboys). He makes plays all over the field and throws his body around. With the field crowded, he may not declare. Donte Nicholson (Oklahoma) is a clone of Adam Archuleta, making most of his plays in the box or backfield (6 sacks in 2003). Unlike Archuleta or Pat Tillman, though, he is a natural DB who won't need to make a "transition" to safety and could even play FS. I can't see this guy slipping far into round 2....

    I think he'll be just fine, and how
  17. Hostile

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    I've seen him play and listened to him speak too after his 3 TD performance earlier this year. On top of that every scouting report I have seen on him lists negatives about his character and attitude.

    I'll pass.
  18. marsbennett

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    I like this take. I agree..we have a war chest to use...I expect FA to bring more than the draft. In FA, we have so little to lose and so much to gain. With the draft, well, I've seen 10 yrs. of disaster....I ain't countin' any chickens, yet.
  19. da_boyz_mk

    da_boyz_mk How 'Bout Dem Cowboys

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    i agree totally that we don't need a traditional 'FS' type. right now we just need someone who can play on this level.

    i disagree that roy is a good cover corner. he is better in the box by far. just because there are more opportunities in the box doesn't mean that just anyone can make them. i would argue that there are just as many opportunities in pass coverage as far as interceptions and pass breakups go, and roy just hasn't made any plays in pass coverage this year.

    i think roy can and will be a dominating player in this league, but not until he gets some help from the other safety position.
  20. SALADIN

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    They have their favorites and will say whatever about a player even if they have never seen him. Being on the west coast I've seen about as many SC games as anyone over the last few years and it was Williams during his Freshman year who couldn't catch a flu if he had his @ss dipped in lake Michigan.

    He's turned it around since but beating these Pac 10 CB's and trying to get seperation at 230 lbs are going to be worlds apart.

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