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Bull Fights

Discussion in 'Off-topic Zone' started by muck4doo, Feb 18, 2013.

  1. muck4doo

    muck4doo Well-Known Member

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    Just watched a video of bull fights in Spain and Mexico. I won't link it here because of the gore. I know this site frowns on political things, but how can anyone support this? I find it downright barbaric. I know some argue that football is barbaric, but seeing the two sports compared to each other, there is no comparison. One is a sport of men trying to accomplish touch downs or prevent them, the other is taunting an animal to eventually kill it to the cheers of the crowd. It's very Roman games like.
  2. ConcordCowboy

    ConcordCowboy Mr. Buckeye

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    I love it when the Bull gets to gore those idiots.

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  3. muck4doo

    muck4doo Well-Known Member

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    Where is the "like" button?
  4. Seven

    Seven Messenger to the football Gods

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    Bugs trashed that bull...........The 'ol anvil behind the cape trick. :D
  5. TheCount

    TheCount Pixel Pusher

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    Yeah, I'm with you guys. It's downright medieval. They say its part of their culture, but a lot of things were part of people's cultures that we don't do anymore - like slavery or marrying off young children to secure political ties.
  6. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    it says something about a culture that refuses to put this in the dustbin of history
  7. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    It is not all bad. The bull is used to feed the poor. I know a lady from Madrid, and she is very proud of her countries bull fights. I would like to attend a fight before making judgement.
  8. ConcordCowboy

    ConcordCowboy Mr. Buckeye

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    The Bull got in his shots too...:D

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  9. Eskimo

    Eskimo Well-Known Member

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    I tink they taunt the bull by stabbing it with spears as the matador continues to evade the bull.

    I agree with the sentiment that the sport is barbaric. I know I would be against it being done in my country. It is up to the people of Mexico and Spain to decide how they wish to treat animals in their own country but I do think it is a bit of a mark against them in the international community.
  10. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    I think the US is bothered a little more than most countries with these types of things. I guess I am numb to a good bit of it myself. Being raised around a good many small farms, I wasn't shielded from the rough side of animal-human relationships. That is the nicest way that I could say that without getting graphic.

    Many countries have blood sports as entertainment. It is just part of their culture. I can respect that.
  11. AbeBeta

    AbeBeta Well-Known Member

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    It is barbaric. I've been to one. It is such a major iconic thing in Spanish society though, I can't see how they would ever get rid of it.

    Of course they likely look at many of our practices in the same manner.
  12. CanadianCowboysFan

    CanadianCowboysFan Lightning Rod

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    Aren't the matadors like Gods over there?

    I think it is terrible but as I am often told here, who am I to tell another country what they should do.
  13. vta

    vta The Proletariat

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    You also routinely like to play the equivalence game in the matter of who defines morals, so you really have no ground to stand on when stating something is terrible. Herded in to an abattoir and hit with a mallet or toyed with and given a fighting chance before ending up on the plate, what's the difference?
  14. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    Very good point. The end result is the same, steaks.
  15. CanadianCowboysFan

    CanadianCowboysFan Lightning Rod

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    You know what I mean. When I discuss laws in the US, I am told to shut my piehole because it doesn't concern me.

    Bull fighting and the law allowing bull fighting has no effect on you nor is it being performed in the US so should you all not shut your pie holes given it doesn't concern you?
  16. vta

    vta The Proletariat

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    Kill a bull, tell a Canadian to mind his own business, it's all the same.

    When you discuss morals you dismiss a definitive code of morals, claiming all are subject to the view point of the individual. This takes any sort of protest against either bull fighting or how you're treated out of your mouth.

    To each his own, no?
  17. Shiloht88

    Shiloht88 Benched

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    Torture?

    Barbaric sport if you can call it a sport. I have no time for it.
  18. CanadianCowboysFan

    CanadianCowboysFan Lightning Rod

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    You wanting to change the law about allowing bull fights is no different than when I say a US law should change. The subject might be different but the issue is the same. Someone in another country telling another how they should govern.

    Now if you are ok with furriners telling you how the US should be governed or what laws you should have on the books, then great, but if you aren't and would be upset with a Mexican or a Spaniard complaining about one of your laws, then you are being hypocritical n'est ce pas?
  19. vta

    vta The Proletariat

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    I don't want to change a law about bullfighting; I'm not offended by it nor bothered. I was busting your chops for being a moral equivalest... if that's even a word.
  20. TheCount

    TheCount Pixel Pusher

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    There's slaughter and there's torture. I don't know a farmer in the world who gets off on torturing his livestock.

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