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Chiefs Trade For Alex Smith

Discussion in 'NFL Zone' started by TheFinisher, Feb 27, 2013.

  1. CashMan

    CashMan Well-Known Member

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    Did you see the 49ers 2012 draft class, Jerry could not of done a worse job.
  2. visionary

    visionary Well-Known Member

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    you havent seen our 2013 picks yet

    BTW, i hate to correct you, but jerry does not make draft decisions by himself

    no, according to reliable sources (that i am not at liberty to divulge), jerry, jason, and stephen contribute equally to the lunacy
  3. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    Wow. A top of the 2nd round pick for Alex Smith.

    Does he come with cheese or something?
  4. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Very good example of a team that drafted for need, and didn't even do a good job of that.

    The defense and oline (the two main team strengths) were built while Singletary was HC.

    Harbaugh's doing great job coaching though.
  5. Bluestang

    Bluestang Well-Known Member

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    Remind the class who is the big cheese over at KC that traded for Smith?

    The same HC with final say in his contract and was hired before the GM in KC?
  6. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    What point do you think you're making?
  7. Future

    Future Intramural Legend

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    Agreed. Dumb move.
  8. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    It also tells me they might also be looking to trade down a bit to try and recoup that second round choice.
  9. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    Who is this potential franchise QB Kansas City was going to draft?

    Geno Smith?
  10. Carl23

    Carl23 Member

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    I don't understand why the Vikings didn't do this deal.
  11. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    Trent Baalke is doing an outstanding job all the way around.

    Good drafts and good coaching hires. Stockpiling draft picks left and right for the future. Unloading overpriced veteran talent when the time is right.

    They are going to be good for a very very long time.
  12. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    They apparently believe that Ponder still has potential.
  13. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    Word on the street is the Chiefs will continue to "explore" their opportunities to trade from the 1st overall pick now. Reaction on the Smith deal seems mixed. Most fans are going to need to see results on the field before getting overly excited.
  14. joseephuss

    joseephuss Well-Known Member

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    Are the two things supposed to be related? Smith isn't a read-option QB. I suppose he is athletic enough to run some of that type of offense, but he really isn't adept at running it.

    Didn't Culpepper run a 4.52 forty? If so, that is faster than what Smith did. Culpepper was also 6'-4" and over 250 lbs, so he isn't built like Geno. I don't think that is a good comparison.
  15. TheFinisher

    TheFinisher Well-Known Member

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    Yes, Geno has a chance to be a franchise QB.
  16. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Kind of early to give up on him. Maybe one more year.

    They turned him lose vs green bay in the last game of the regular season and he delivered.
    3TDs, 0 ints, 120 QB rating and the win. Too bad he was hurt for the playoffs

    It's not like Minny is loaded at WR. Harvin was out and after him it goes downhill quickly.
  17. Bluestang

    Bluestang Well-Known Member

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    Andy Reid isn't as good of a talent evaluator as people believed he was. Giving up a 2nd rounder for Alex Smith is crazy.
  18. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Can't say I'm a big Alex Smith fan.
    But I do think he fits what Reid like to do very well. They have a decnt line that soon may get better and an explosive RB. They do need another WR or two. But Smith is fairly mobil and can suceed in the short to intermediate passing game. He fits better than Cassel did, for sure.
  19. Supercowboy1986

    Supercowboy1986 Well-Known Member

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    yeah but remember he had Mccoy as a RB and hardly used him. hopefully he doesn't make the same mistake twice with Charles
  20. InmanRoshi

    InmanRoshi Zone Scribe

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    It's hard to say that the going rate for Alex Smith isn't a 2nd round pick, given that that seems to be the established price for a starting NFL QB from the Kolb/McNabb trades. People can go back and forth on whether they would pay that price, but I think people can understate how hurtful having an awful QB situation can be to the development and growth of a franchise. People have a hard time getting their head around an "above average" QB. They tend to just lump all QBs into two categories and haves and have nots, and either you got an elite QB who goes to Pro Bowls and appears in all the TV commercials or you got a "other" who are all equally about the same and can be equally swapped out. There is a point where you get such bad QB play that it singlehandedly holds back the progress of your entire franchise. You can't evaluate your WRs because the QB can't get the ball to them. You can't evaluate your running game because defenses stack the box on base down. You can't evaluate your pass protection because you find yourself in so many long down and distance situations the defense doesn't have to respect the run. You can't evaluate your defense because they all look like garbage by the 3rd quarter because they have to play 70-90 snaps a game because the offense can't sustain a drive.

    Also, I think it should be mentioned that this isn't without significant risk for the 49ers. Putting all of your eggs into a scrambling QB who has never played a 16 game season, and his ability to stay upright, is pretty ballsy for a team with Superbowl aspirations. That team isn't as young as people think, particularly on defense. Alex Smith was carrying a perfectly reasonable cap number as an insurance policy.

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