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Come draft time, Cowboys turn to pod to settle disputes

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Risen Star, Apr 20, 2017.

  1. lkelly

    lkelly Well-Known Member

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    I guess it's better than having Jerry sit in a room with Larry Lacewell and a fully stocked bar.
     
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  2. mrtxstar

    mrtxstar Well-Known Member

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    Isn't a "pod" what they call a family of whales? This doesn't instill the idea that the tiebreaker is a real brain-trust.
     
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  3. dallasfan4lizife

    dallasfan4lizife Well-Known Member

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    Preferably hasn't even played football before. I'm talking super green.

    Maybe draft an athletic power forward from some SEC school.
     
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  4. fredp22

    fredp22 Well-Known Member

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    isnt it ironic that the only time we didnt do that for a TE was with Witten. We rolled the dice and were lucky he was there in the 3rd.
     
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  5. pete026

    pete026 Member

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    It is generally considered a sound business practice. If you are a direct supervisor of a certain position in a company, you should be involved in the hiring process. You are ultimately going to be relying on that individual to help you succeed. It sucks to have no say in your people but be held responsible if they stink. This was one of the failures of Jerry's original business model after Jimmy left.
     
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  6. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    That depends on the quality of the supervisor. Dooley never has impressed me, either at Tennessee or in Dallas honestly.

    The NFL is a different business than the real world.

    Assistant coaches can come and go depending on the regime of the head coach. If you depend on his subordinates for decisions that will extend three or four years in the future, that is risky because chances are, they won't be around if it is a developmental prospect.
     
  7. jday

    jday Well-Known Member

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    Excellent read. Though, it does leave you wondering what the hell they were doing before. Obviously, you want your scouts to scout and your coaches to coach, but schematic fit is huge. So wouldn't it be kinda obvious that you would want them in a room together before every draft hashing out what to scout for? Seems like this is something that they should have been doing all along...
     
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  8. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    I thought the big deal with McClay was that he was the filter. He talks to the coaches, gets the info, tells the scouts what to go look for.

    Now this comes out and we still have coaches on a soap box and what sounds like a bad idea.

    I am a firm believer that scouts know these players more intimately than anyone, they spend an entire year with them. Much more than a coach who watches tape for a few weeks or has one of their nepotistic coaching buddies put in a good word for them.

    I understand coaches want players to fit what they want. But if they feel that strongly about a player they have not spent a lot of time with, there are other factors involved.
     
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  9. pete026

    pete026 Member

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    First, the article was using Dooley as an example of the process, not speaking about his quality as a receiver coach.

    Second, another sound business practice is to make good selections on position coaches and do things to make them want to stay like involving them.

    Third, Today's NFL is very similar to any large, prominent business. And is generally successful if based on sound business practices. See the Pats model.
     
  10. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    I hardly think the Patriot business model means involving the WR coach in a committee when there is a dispute about a draft prospect.
     
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  11. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    They also aren't paid talent evaluators. They're not doing the work on these players year round during their entire college career.

    In 2003 there was a reported shift away from coaching input and toward the scouts and while they weren't world beaters the results showed it was a good decision. There was improvement from the monstrosity of the Campo years.
     
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  12. Vinnie2u

    Vinnie2u Well-Known Member

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    I thought the title read Cowboys turn to pot to settle disputes..420
     
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  13. haleyrules

    haleyrules Well-Known Member

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    lol. It seems teams experts are far more accurate the higher a club drafts. Its a crap shoot after the first half of the 1st round.
     
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  14. CowboyFan74

    CowboyFan74 Cowboys Analyst

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    It's the repetitive programming method, very effective with brain dead shills and the easily influenced follower types..


    That will be $29.95
     
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  15. windward

    windward NFL Historian

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    Have Broaddus, Helman and Brugler be the tiebreakers?
     
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  16. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member

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    :lmao:Meeting adjourned
     
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  17. GhostOfPelleur

    GhostOfPelleur Well-Known Member

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    If you dont think Dooley knows enough to have a say in who to draft at WR then he shouldn't be the WR coach.
     
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  18. texbumthelife

    texbumthelife Well-Known Member

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    Because in the example they're talking about a WR and he is WR coach. If they were talking about LBs they would have referenced the LB coach. It's not that Dooley is always involved.
     
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  19. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    That was not my assumption. I would have just as much of a problem as having Gary Brown involved in a five way debate.
     
  20. AsthmaField

    AsthmaField Outta bounds

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    Well... something is working well.

    Just keep doing what they're doing and we will be fine.
     
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