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Dallas Cowboys Defense Has Folded When Games Have Mattered Most

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Gryphon, Nov 27, 2012.

  1. Gryphon

    Gryphon Merge Ahead

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    by Ben Grimaldi

    It’s no secret the Dallas Cowboys defense was a major trouble spot in the past few seasons, no matter who was coaching them. The Cowboys organization and their fans needed someone to blame for the defenses short comings.

    First the ax fell on Brian Stewart, then Wade Phillips, and now the Cowboys have Rob Ryan in charge of the defense and his fate is yet to be known.

    The next excuse was that the players weren’t good enough. Everyone watched the past few seasons as the Cowboys secondary got light up and we watched their playoff hopes go down the drain as they allowed big play after big play.

    Then the pass rush was to blame. The Cowboys don’t have enough pass rushers, after all DeMarcus Ware can’t do it alone!

    With obvious needs for upgrades on the Cowboys defense, they went out and signed Brandon Carr and drafted Morris Claiborne to help the secondary. They also drafted Tyrone Crawford and Kyle Wilber to help out the pass rush. Couple those draft picks with the return of Ware, Anthony Spencer, Sean Lee, Jay Ratliff, Jason Hatcher and pass rushing specialist Victor Butler and the Cowboys would be able to play aggressive coverages with their new corners. Which would allow Ryan to be creative with his blitzes to get sacks hand over fist or cause more turnovers.

    None of that has happened.

    LINK TO REST OF ARTICLE: http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/2012/...nse-has-folded-when-games-have-mattered-most/
  2. diehard2294

    diehard2294 America's Team

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    sounds like the cowboys teams of past years, we will be fine next year when everyone gets healthy
  3. Section444

    Section444 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, week one will be awesome! Then, by week five we'll be right back to where we are now with injuries.
  4. IrishAnto

    IrishAnto Well-Known Member

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    Yep! Every year is a new excuse for the defense but next year will be sooo much better if we could only spend our first two picks on <insert position(s) here>
  5. BTX

    BTX New Member

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    Honestly,I like this defense if healthy.
  6. morasp

    morasp Well-Known Member

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    Losing half of any units starters is bound to have an impact.
  7. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    You have a good point. At some point coaching needs to step up. If every draft has to be used to make Ryan a good coach, why is he the DC? Just about any pro coach will look good if he has top-tier talent. I think the major defensive breakdowns have been due to Ryan. If he was half as good as he thinks he is, the defense would be much better. I don't buy into his BS.
  8. Apollo Creed

    Apollo Creed Stackin and Processin, Well

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    Awful article, defense has lost two of its best players and had three or four starters routinely out all year. At least they've been competitive.

    Offense has been relatively healthy and has been awful all year long. The only time it does anything is when Romo makes a play.
  9. The Natural

    The Natural Well-Known Member

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    I'd hardly call giving up 28 points in one quarter and making a rookie QB look like Marino in his prime "being competitive". And I dont care what the offense does, how many 3 and outs, how many turnovers, it's not an excuse to not do your job, which is to keep the opposing team out the endzone. This team has stunk up the joint on both sides of the ball, and I put most of that on the coaches. Rob has had some truly despicable game plans, but these players have not executed down the stretch. Needed one stop last week and they couldnt get it
  10. TheFinisher

    TheFinisher Well-Known Member

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    Take a look at what Rob Ryan is working with:


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    And understand he's made that a top 10 defense this year.
  11. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    IIRC the defense was healthy for the Seahawks game and the game plan was awfull. That game showed me that Ryan came up short in in his coaching. The Seahawks are just an example of the problems the defense has, even when healthy.
  12. JackWagon

    JackWagon Well-Known Member

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    frankly our team is like this due to piss poor drafting. Only getting 2 players per draft worth a crap doesnt cut it in the NFL.
  13. hutch1254

    hutch1254 Well-Known Member

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    Even when the defense is healthy it is a defense that does not generate enough game changing plays.

    This D is bottom 5 in each of the following categories:
    Inteceptions - total of 5, leader is 20
    Passes Defended - total of 36, leader is 84
    Forced fumbles - total of 9, leader is 26
    Fumbles recovered (tied for 7th least) total of 7, leader is 18

    Sacks we are 19th over all with 24, leader is 37

    The defense is good at stopping teams fairly consistently but there are breakdowns at the most inopportune times. We're pretty good at holding teams to field goals.

    But when the hell are we going to start generating game changing plays? Ones that change the game or at the very least help our offense? The type of ones listed above where we are bottom 5? We just don't do that. We're a top 10 defense (currently ranked 9th overall) when we're bottom 5 in the game changing categories????????????? for real??? And this was occurring when we had all of our starters healthy.
  14. Flinger

    Flinger Active Member

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    Well done, sir...

    May I suggest that you also show the injury status of those starters potential back-ups.

    For instance, Jenkins was unavailable the first part of the season. Matt Johnson never saw the field. Wilbur just returned (didn't he?). Lissemore. Hatcher has been hurt.

    The Defense has been decimated. First line and second line. And, for you pitchfork guys, that makes a huge difference. Starters are starters for a reason. If they can't go, Ryan has to adjust his scheme. For instance, without his starting safety (Church), his CB's have to play more zone instead of what he hoped for - tight man coverage. It does have a trickle effect.
  15. Zimmy Lives

    Zimmy Lives Well-Known Member

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    This.

    This defense lacks a dominant force in the middle. Ratliff is a good player but he has been just a shell of his former self for the past few seasons and has had very little impact.

    Dallas has a lot of pieces in place but they need to load up with a stud d-lineman and a playmaking safety if they want to be special. The problem, though, is they have to replace Spencer's production as well as start looking for Ware's eventual replacement.
  16. HoosierCowboy

    HoosierCowboy Put Pearson in the HOF

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    ditto

    in today's NFL and salary cap, it is difficult to have much depth--I really liked our D until we lost one of our 2 serviceable safeties,the we lost Rat, lost Coleman, and now our LBs and the we are where we are
  17. Flinger

    Flinger Active Member

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    100% agree. Safety and stud d-lineman - get healthy and retain Spencer. Next year, if they stay away from injuries, the D can be very, very good.

    Unfortunately, we will have to wait - again.

    BTW - I would cut Spears today and pick up Babin.... what do we have to lose?
  18. Everlastingxxx

    Everlastingxxx All Star

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    The Cowboys defense is comparable to the top two defenses overall (Steelers/Niners) in many of those same stats.

    I don&#8217;t agree that the defense has been unable to get important stops. They have, the reason the Cowboys have been able to make comebacks and win 5 games.

    The offense has been terrible this season and that has had an effect on the overall defense. Turnovers happen when teams are playing from behind and being predictable. That hasn&#8217;t happened much this season.
  19. Hook'em#11

    Hook'em#11 Well-Known Member

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    As far as I can tell, the defense has won one game this season for the Cowboys. The egals game.

    that has been about it. But, everyone healthy is huge. Different, possibly one I could actually consider good.

    Course, talk to the Giants what? Last year? Or the year before? Half of their defense was missing and they still made crap happen.

    So, I think the injury excuse is just that.

    Dallas still needs better players on both sides of the ball, especially and most importantly O-line and D-line.

    That is why Dallas is more than just " a few players" away from the goal.
  20. IrishAnto

    IrishAnto Well-Known Member

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    Let’s not fool ourselves here; this team was terrible at generating turnovers before the injuries hit in a big way.

    Barry church went out in week 3 and Sean Lee in week 7 six games into the season.

    When Lee went on IR he was joint leader in interceptions with one which coincidently was 50% of our total interceptions.

    50%!!!! After more than a third of the season had passed.

    That is terrible any way you want to cut it and if Barry Church going on IR is the only reason, then we are in big, big trouble.

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