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Deadliest U.S. sniper murdered at a gun range in Erath County

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  1. Cajuncowboy

    Cajuncowboy Preacher From The Black Lagoon

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    Those folks at Annapolis and West Point aren't dummies. That said, there are some people who simply want to serve their country and choose to do so.
  2. Denim Chicken

    Denim Chicken Well-Known Member

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    I guess you don't understand hyperbole
  3. RastaRocket

    RastaRocket Sanka, Ya Dead Mon? Ya Mon.

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    I have as well. I read the article of him dying on an Arab news website and this guy is considered a terrorist in their eyes. They say he got what he deserved. Just as we say that about Taliban. It's all about perspective. The world is messed up.

    I'm honestly not that shocked. A guy kills 150 or whatever people and writes a book about it that becomes a best seller. It's bound to piss some people off.

    It's Inflorious Bastards 2.0. Famous Nazi sniper a celebrated war hero. Makes a movie about it and the jews and americans burn down the theatre.
  4. DMOB

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    In our neck of the woods I would say hell yea, but as a "country" I would say no.......sad really.
  5. CanadianCowboysFan

    CanadianCowboysFan Lightning Rod

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    One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
  6. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    This is not true.
  7. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    Does this statement mean that you do not understand why some pay honor to Soldiers?
  8. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    I understand hyperbole. I also understand when it is in bad form.
  9. RastaRocket

    RastaRocket Sanka, Ya Dead Mon? Ya Mon.

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  10. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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  11. RastaRocket

    RastaRocket Sanka, Ya Dead Mon? Ya Mon.

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    We say the same thing about their people. It's no different than the Dorner story. To them, we are the police killing innocent people. To us, they are psychopaths. That's why there will never be peace. Until we can understand and respect one another, nothing will ever get accomplished.

    Honestly, if I lived there I would hate us to. I understand their frustration.
  12. ABQCOWBOY

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    No. That is War. The Dorner situation is not. It is great to say all of this but the fact is that in this country, you can actually say what you have said and what those others commented with no fear of retaliation.

    There, you can not do that. You are not the only person who has spent time there. It's not the same and to suggest that it is is simply not true.
  13. RastaRocket

    RastaRocket Sanka, Ya Dead Mon? Ya Mon.

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    In the big picture, it is the same.
  14. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    OK.

    We differ in opinion. I understand that and it's fine.
  15. Denim Chicken

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    You really think so? Seems to me members of the Military are beyond reproach, honored at most functions, have their own Holiday's, special privileges, yellow ribbons, various organizations to support them, and on and on. Perhaps your confusing the regard for our service members for the warranted disregard for our Foreign Policy, which are two separate animals.
  16. ABQCOWBOY

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    Yes, I really think so. Members of the Military are not always honored. I am not confused about any part of how the Military is treated. The Military doesn't have "there own Holiday", per say. Yes, they have holidays that are set aside to honor them but those holidays are enjoyed by everybody so I don't know that you can say they belong to the Military. When your active duty, you don't enjoy a lot of those holidays the way you do when you are a civilian so I do think there is a distinction. I can't remember the last time I was at a public function where something was done or said about a Vet. I don't know what the Special Privilages are. There are benefits that Vets get but those are becoming harder and harder to come by and in truth, they are not special privileges, per say. They are benefits that are owed to them, based on a contractual agreement with the Federal Government. The special groups that support them are usually privately held and owned. There are some groups that receive federal support but that is part of the VA funding so I don't really see that as a "Special Organizational Support Effort". The sad part, as far as I am concerned, is that there is a need for such organizations. In truth, the Government should really be holding up their end of the deal and nothing special or out of the ordinary should be needed but they are. That's a short fall in the benefits promised as I see it. That's not really a good thing IMO.
  17. VietCowboy

    VietCowboy Be Realistic. Demand the Impossible.

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    When veterans are disproportionately represented in the homeless population (a study found 15% of homeless were veterans, but they represent less than 10% of the general population, and have a risk factor over 50% higher than the general population for homelessness), and many with mental illnesses that don't get the help they need. They also stay homeless for much longer, averaging 5.7 years (homeless, on the other hand, average 3.9 years).

    Yes, some are recognized, but countless are much worst off after serving.
  18. CanadianCowboysFan

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    One must wonder though if as was written above, the type who join up to be grunts tend to be those who don't have many other options. Yes the majority are probably doing it for love of country, protect, maybe get an educ etc, but many have little hope for anything else etc.

    They might have ended up homeless in the first place.
  19. RastaRocket

    RastaRocket Sanka, Ya Dead Mon? Ya Mon.

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    Really the only way to get properly taken care of by the military is to put in your 20 years. Retired NFL players get taken care of better than soldiers, and they make a ton more money. It's sad because our government is the one who sends them to fight, which screws them up, and then they hardly take care of them.
  20. CanadianCowboysFan

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    true but no one is forced to join the military, you voluntarily sign up to be shot at and to get PTSD

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