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DFW-Gosselin: It's surprising the Cowboys neglected their two biggest needs

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by jobberone, Sep 2, 2013.

  1. AmberBeer

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    That goes to show you how meaningless that stat is.
  2. AmberBeer

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    Don't play dumb with me either. The Cowboys ranked 31st in rushing last year. You pick out one game and declare that's all that's needed to support your argument? That's ridiculous.
  3. Ren

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    The opposite seems to ring true in our case last 3 seasons 6-10 8-8 8-8, that's what our obsession with value has gotten us and it's for the most part been pretty consistent what areas of our team has held us back during those seasons, it's not like we addressed one thing and another held us back our line play has been horrible throughout this stretch.
    If we go 8-8 again this year i guess we can all smile about that 2nd TE and 3rd WR sitting on the bench and how much smarter we where then the rest of the league for getting them
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  4. Ren

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    You give Romo descent blocking and he'll be even better our backup TE can't even do that, he'll ride the bench this year and next years draft there will be 3-5 more guys just like him. People seem to think we have ages to turn this around, we don't Romo has tops 3 good years left in him if we keep trying to build for the future while at the same time competing we'll keep having 8-8 seasons. Back up TE and 3rd WR was not bigger needs then OL and DL, those are the positions that will hold us back this year while Willams and Escobar rides the bench.

    And if you wanna talk value drafts just go look up the ultimate value draft where we kept trading down for value in 09, how did drafting a backup kicker workout? we're not smarter then everyone else and we're not a 12-4 team with bad luck that doesn't have needs. We have major needs and if we keep ignoring them we're not going to get any better
  5. Toruk_Makto

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    Our last 3 drafts have been about restocking the talent pool, getting younger and getting more talented. Mission accomplished.
  6. Galian Beast

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    Both Escobar and Williams will be getting starting rate snaps. Thanks for playing though.
  7. Ren

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    And both Hannah and Harris could have done the same job in Hannas case probably better, Williams looks to raw to expect much from this year
  8. Mansta54

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    Well said!!
  9. Risen Star

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    Drafting BPA is the only way to go. If you're doing that and not improving the team the problem isn't in the philosophy it's in the scouting.
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  10. dargonking999

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    Sometimes, you can speak righteous truth.
  11. Risen Star

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    I consider you one of my closest friends.
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  12. Iago33

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    Yet you were against the drafting of Escobar because he was a tight end?
  13. Risen Star

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    No. Because I didn't think he was the BPA and the real value there was at a position of great need.
  14. dargonking999

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    No he was against drafting him because he thought there were better players on the board that would have helped our team just as much or more. I feel like escobar was a need pick more than a BPA pick. They wanted to move to a 12 system, saw that a highly rated TE was still out there, and went for it, rather than draft BPA. Does it mean it was a bad pick? only time will tell
  15. Risen Star

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    Fasano and Bennett also soured me on the pick. We've tried featuring 2 TEs before and it's never really panned out.
  16. visionary

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    When a team and FO don't know how to evaluate talent they will have players ranked in the wrong place . Using our board to justify our picks when we have a history of poor drafting is just window dressing
  17. dargonking999

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    Well in fairness, Fasano was a god awful reach, that we gave up on too early, and Bennett was just a headcase that we thought we could reign in and failed miserably. But they say third time is the charm? lol
  18. Galian Beast

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    We have not tried the 12 formation like we are trying it now. We are tied to it. We no longer even have a fullback on the roster.

    Hanna is not as good as people think he is. People are in love with his measurables, but he has yet to put it together on the field.
  19. jterrell

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    When we drafted Dez, Sean Lee and Bruce Carter for value there were plenty of tears.
    Then they actually played. Feel free to knock them now if you like.

    I would have never touched a TE in round 2 but with the way the NFL is going it does make sense.
    Especially when there wasn't any value for OL/DL sitting there.

    The thought you draft for need and immediately become great is as much a stretch as one can make.

    You get value out of the draft for 5 years and then you can win big regularly.
    We got nothing out of some drafts not long ago and that is what hurts us.

    Dallas absolutely factors need and position in to their drafting.
    They don't just blindly reach for the next ranked player at a position of need though.
    No team is that stupid.
  20. jterrell

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    thats about as poor logically as an argument can get.

    dallas can ONLY judge itself based off it's board. Its the only board they have come draft day.
    that is the ONLY justification for picks that matters.

    dallas has actually proven quite a strong evaluator of talent in recent years.
    feel free to lie to yourself if it makes you feel better, but it isnt going to win any arguments.

    i wish we could get all you guys together to cry on each others shoulders.
    just get a good cleansing cry before, you know, game 1....

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