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News: DMN: Stephen Jones unveils new plan: Dallas unlikely to sign players over 30

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  1. NewsBot

    NewsBot New Member

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    One reason the Cowboys have been unable to escape the pull of .500 in past seasons is that they have paid significant money to players past the age of 30 who were no longer on the rise.

    That’s why DeMarcus Ware and Jason Hatcher have found employment elsewhere and Miles Austin will soon follow.

    “If we don’t learn from what has bitten us then shame on us,’’ said Stephen Jones, the team’s chief operating officer. “Unfortunately, we have been paying guys who are over 30 years old a lot of money up front and it hasn’t worked for us.

    These moves aren’t a declaration that the club will never again throw big money at a player in his 30s. But it does signal a more critical eye in how these players will be judged.

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  2. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Shut up and play! Staff Member

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    Rules out Kevin Williams anybody else remotely close to being in the NFL retirement home.
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  3. DBOY3141

    DBOY3141 Well-Known Member

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    So why bring in Jared Allen for a visit?? I don't think you can just have a cut and dry "we will not sign anyone over 30" type attitude.
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  4. speedkilz88

    speedkilz88 Well-Known Member

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    I don't think KW is going to get big money anymore though.
  5. Vanilla2

    Vanilla2 Well-Known Member

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    Leverage against Melton maybe?
  6. speedkilz88

    speedkilz88 Well-Known Member

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    He's never missed a game.

  7. Corso

    Corso Well-Known Member

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    In the same article Stephen did say there will be exceptions to that rule.
    Maybe Allen is one of those exceptions- if the price is right.
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  8. BoysFan4ever

    BoysFan4ever Well-Known Member

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    Isn't Brandon Weeden over 30?
  9. Cowboyz88

    Cowboyz88 Well-Known Member

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    He's not saying he won't sign any over-30 players, he's saying they will try not to overpay declining players, often.

    Pats and Steelers have been doing it for years; we're just now catching on.

    Better late than never, I guess.
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  10. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Shut up and play! Staff Member

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    Yeah, which is why they prefaced that there may be exceptions, but I think think they may not be as generous with the big money deals to the homegrown players as in the past.
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  11. speedkilz88

    speedkilz88 Well-Known Member

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    It isn't possible to get burned by a minimum salary player.
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  12. Clove

    Clove Shrinkage

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    Listening to the Jone's talk is comical. They all talk in circles and make idiotic statements. Now Stephen is learning to be dumb like his Dad. Making that statement alone is flat out stupid. I'm guessing if Denver didn't sign grampa Manning, they would not know what a Super Bowl looked like.

    Again, and you said it didn't work out for us. What didn't work was the fact that you can't draft, and your coaching staff is a joke. Start there.
  13. Vanilla2

    Vanilla2 Well-Known Member

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    Ugh
  14. noshame

    noshame Who wouldn't follow me? Zone Supporter

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    It would have been nice if they decided to do this pre Romo:rolleyes: But better late than never.
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  15. Cowboyz88

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    Jones says they're changing a philosophy that many of us have wanted (begged for) for years — Barber, T.O., Austin, Rat, Bigg, Romo, etc. — and people still complain.

    Only in Cowboys land.
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  16. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    This plan sounds good to me.
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  17. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    The light bulb seems to have finally come on.
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  18. Carharris2

    Carharris2 Well-Known Member

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    It seems some can't be happy or positive.
    Ever.
  19. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    That's about the size of it.
  20. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    It does seem that way.

    Though, in defense of the usually Grumbly Gusses on the forum here, this seems like a lesson we really ought not to have had to have learned the hard way. I'd have made an exception for Ware, since he's a generational player and showed zero signs of going off the rails when we had to extend him, but it still turned out to be a mistake. The Ratliff deal was a huge and obvious gaffe at the time.

    The other problem we've had--and I hope they've learned from it--is getting in positions where we've had to extend younger players based off of an insufficient body of work. Barber, Austin, Free deals were all crap shoots we probably should not have been in in the first place. Either play them sooner, or extend them earlier after you've had two years to make a judgement. Don't wait for a contract-year explosion and then roll the dice on a long term deal.
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