Do we really have a RKG team?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by mmohican29, Nov 1, 2013.

  1. mmohican29

    mmohican29 Well-Known Member

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    We all saw the Ratliff situation unfold. Now there is Austin and Murray... both players who in all likelihood will not be back in Cowboys uniforms due to cap constraints.

    Read up on Albert Haynesworth and Deangelo Hall prior to his current stint w/ the Skins: players with immense ability and used self preservation tactics, attitude, and nagging "injuries" to keep themselves off the field and yet still good commodities on the FA market.

    Jones' extensions of players to keep money freed for top FA's is potentially the precise reason why both Murray and Austin are unwilling to return to the field. Someone else will pay for their abilities when Jerry can not, OR: they will not sell out for their team without a contract in potential negotiation.

    I doubt these situations apply only to the Cowboys, but I can't think of another team that has as much consternation getting players to return to the field.
  2. TTexasTT

    TTexasTT Well-Known Member

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    Lets act like we actually know these athletes personally.

    Id perfer to give them the benefit of the doubt. I doubt Murray said "na, I aint playin' Im tryin to get paid". Unless theyve released some statement that would support that I would think they would much rather be healthy, trying to play.
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  3. Corso

    Corso Well-Known Member

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    Murray is not a player to shy from contact.

    You've seen it. The man is a Bull.

    He trains with MMA fighters. The cat is not a wuss.

    I'm fairly sure players understand that they reputations and perceptions that they have to carry with them.

    I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise.

    He's a pretty good RB too.
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  4. Hoov

    Hoov Senior Member

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    Murray has wanted to play. The coaches have been holding him out
  5. AbeBeta

    AbeBeta Benched

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    Plus the idea that him not playing will somehow lead to him getting paid is ludicrous
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  6. AbeBeta

    AbeBeta Benched

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    Also Austin not playing is about his hammy not what kind of guy he is. In fact, he played on that hammy and just didn't have it. He certainly isn't faking. He has millions of reasons to play!
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  7. Hoov

    Hoov Senior Member

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    Also, on the topic of RKG - is anyone else noticing how many suspensions are being handed out this year, and how many players are not playing due to substance abuse issues, needing rehab and what not.

    It just seems like more than ever. And i think its a trend the league will continue to follow. There are a lot of teams with big money players who are missing a lot of playing time.

    I think for the future it is more important than ever to really look at players in a very thorough manner and I am glad that the cowboys are focusing on RKG mentality to building a team.
  8. 03EBZ06

    03EBZ06 Need2Speed

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    I'm pretty sure Murray want to play last week, at least he thought he was going to until JG told he isn't.

    Yes Miles have had hamstring issues for while, but I don't think he prefers not to play.

    I do admire those who are hurt get on the field and give their best but at times, because they aren't 100%, they may hurt the team more than help.
  9. XxTDxX

    XxTDxX Well-Known Member

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    The problem is that sometimes you need some guys who don't give a crap. Austin is RKG, Free is RKG, Murray is RKG, Matt Johnson is RKG, Livings was RKG, Danny Coale I am sure is RKG.. Sometimes you can't have a full roster full of choir boys. Sometimes you need some roughnecks on the team and we only have maybe 2 or 3..

    I think the Cowboys are looking for guys like Ware, Witten, and Lee while trying to avoid guys like Pacman Jones and Josh Gordon which is all good but you end up with a lot of soft guys on the team.. We do not bully anyone we play and we sure as hell don't intimidate anyone we play. The part of RKG that I am a fan of is getting guys to whom the game of football matters to and guys who live to play the game.. But I think we miss out on quality talent and guys who also love the game by trying to get a team full of guys who could double as 3rd grade home room teachers
  10. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    Murray's 2014 salary is 755k. Why wouldn't he be back.

    I don't think Austin will be back regardless of the cap situation. You can get much more for 6 million per year.

    The team held Murray out of the last game. He wanted to play.

    The team is holding Austin out until he is 100%. He is not holding himself out.
  11. dupree89

    dupree89 Well-Known Member

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    I submit the above as the most accurate statement ever made on this message board.
  12. 17yearsandcounting

    17yearsandcounting Benched

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    The RKG stuff is total nonsense. It basically means "dont have a personality that challenges me". We had bad dudes on the 90's teams out doing cocaine and strippers while Garrett hosted bingo night.
  13. Toruk_Makto

    Toruk_Makto Well-Known Member

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    Lee and Dez are RKGs as well.

    Not sure i'd call either choir boys...which isn't the definition of RKG anyways.
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  14. Corso

    Corso Well-Known Member

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    I think the term "RKG" has been misconstrued.

    I may be wrong, but I think the term means a player that loves the game of football and will do whatever it takes to be the best they can be on that field.

    A guy who practices hard every practice. A guy that motivates others as well as themselves.

    A guy who leaves it all on the field.

    Not a guy who helps little old ladies cross the road.
  15. nake

    nake Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Miles and DeMarco are both RKG's, IMO. I don't think injuries have anything to do with whether or not a player is an RKG. It's probably more about attitude, aptitude, demeanor, and a few intangibles.
  16. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    It's a label used to essentially say "quitsies!" when questioned on personnel decisions. Well he's the right kind of guy. Oooh. Can't disagree with that completely hollow meaningless statement.

    My right kind of guys for a football team are good football players.
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  17. Beast_from_East

    Beast_from_East Well-Known Member

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    The reason people laugh now when they hear RKG is because of the performance of the field.

    When you go .500 every season, nobody really cares how much an athlete loves the game. You can love the game and still suck at it, I guess that is the point.

    At some point you maybe draft or sign some players that maybe dont love the game as much as they lover the lifestyle...........but they just ball on gameday...........It all comes down to winning at the end, this is professional sports after all.
  18. FiveRings

    FiveRings Well-Known Member

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    Say we do or we don't, doesn't really matter to me, a "RKG" team is overrated. Being a team of RKGs is the kinda thing that gets your defensive captain's jaw broken with zero retaliation. I'd like this team to have some James Harrisons.
  19. Toruk_Makto

    Toruk_Makto Well-Known Member

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    Like Justin Blackmon and Aldon Smith?

    Both very good football players.
  20. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    RKG was always a crock. Just a throwaway robot cliche the local media latched onto and tried to make into some overarching football philosophy.

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