Discussion in 'Political Zone' started by Danny White, Sep 18, 2007.
No matter, it's still his right to freedom of speech--and expression.
Wow, I must be getting dense in my old age... I just made the connection.
How you doing old buddy?
I'm doing OK. I wasn't using my civil liberties anyway.
Thanks for asking. I've been pretty low key because I don't have time to post as much. But life is good.
This has been all over the news, but I hadn't seen it. It really scares me. Some people knew that something was wrong. Other people were blaming the guy talking like this isn't the U.S.
Don't shoot your self too hard. I only left a few subtle hints.
Good to see you.
This is the first time I almost, mind you almost totally agree with BnA. I'm scared and worried, I should go unload and lock up all my guns.
Hey, good seeing you viper. What parts don't you agree with? I'm curious, maybe we can find some gray area.
Good seeing you too buddy, actually I’m a bit please that we do agree mostly here. I would hate to think I couldn’t agree with a liberal on any topic. Kidding aside, I feel this was a public forum in which outrageous questions should have been expected. I actually expect our leaders to answer or attempt to answer questions of this sort. How Kerry let this get so out of hand is beyond me, a simple phrase from him could have prevented all of this. Something like, no let me answer this man’s question.
I hate to think our politicians say they will answer our questions in an open forum, unless of course they are complicated ones. If they happen to be ones in which I don’t care for we’ll rough you up a bit! This is exactly what happened in this instance. Whether the young man was over the top or not, I do feel he was excessively dramatic but we are talking about a college student here.
The problem I do have with the young man is his resistance towards law enforcement. Once police officers decided to foolishly stomp on this man’s rights he should have gone along peacefully. He should have pursued a different venue if he felt his rights were violated. The biggest problem with this whole scenario is the excessive forced used by law enforcement. To taser a man two to three times while he is cuffed is totally unacceptable.
The should have tazed Kerry
I keeeeed I keeeeed :laugh2:
From the look on his face, I kinda figured he's been tazed on numerous occasions already...
They have many times.
Amen.. and he could have been a little more firm on the MICROPHONE. I'm not as liberal as you think. I despise Kerry as we speak.
Yeah, he got roughed up... total nonsense. We agree.
Eh, I thought he was "resisting" in a non-violent matter. No one told him what he was being arrested for. That would tend to irk me a little bit too. He did what people are supposed to do when cops get rough with you... put your hands in the air and say, "what am I being arrested for"?
That's how a lawyer would tell you to handle these kinds of situations. I disagree here, but no big deal... I'm sure he's out of jail at this point; dealing with it though the court system.
But I think this gets thrown out....
So now he's got a taser target on his chest for every time he talks....
If this is on campus property, don't they have a right to regulate what goes on at a campus-sponsored event? The guy was belligerent, despite being asked several times to wrap it up and get to his question. This was not a "Show up and hammer John Kerry event", and for the sake of the other students, the campus has the right and responsibility to make sure that it did not turn into such. Free speech is not guaranteed if it infringes on others rights.
IMO, they had a right to remove him. He had hijacked the event into what amounted to a prank, and the security had a right to remove him if they felt that he was inciting the public to in turn disturb the peace, and turn a peaceful open forum into a mob. Not saying that would have happened, but security is supposed to gauge things like that - and if he was ruining the event for the other attendees, he needed to be removed. He had the right to ask his question - not the right to take over the forum, not allow Kerry to answer and ruin it for everyone else.
The force they used to remove him was unquestionably excessive, though. They had enough people there to apprehend and escort him without the tazering, and it appeared he was already cuffed and on the ground. Someone will pay dearly for that.