Drafting Zeke was football stupid

Discussion in 'Drama Zone' started by jterrell, Sep 14, 2016.

  1. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    You're making McFadden out to be a great back. You claimed he could have had 1600 yards rushing last season with Romo which would have had him leading the entire league in rushing. lol You proved my point by saying Sammie Smith sucked and not even the great Dan Marino could make him a solid back. I brought up several great backs that had very productive HOF careers with average to bad QB situations and also brought up Jamal Lewis and Chris Johnson who'll never be elected to the HOF that had 2000 yard seasons despite bad QB situations. The Cowboys were looking for a great back which is why they drafted Zeke. We're not going any further until you answer these questions. If you keep dancing, I'll keep asking.

    If a QB makes that big a difference to an RBs success then explain how Eric Dickerson, Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, Jim Brown, Earl Campbell and Adrian Peterson had so much production and HOF careers playing with average to bad QBs? If the QB makes the RB, how did Jamal Lewis rush for 2066 yards in 2003 with Kyle Boller and Anthony Wright? Go look at the numbers those QBs put up. If the QB makes that big a difference for a RB how did Chris Johnson rush for 2006 yards with Vince Young and Kerry Collins? Both were terrible!
     
  2. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    This is a room.
     
  3. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    Here's another question do you believe if McFadden started this season he would have the same numbers Zeke has so far? Have fun dancing around that one. lol
     
  4. CalPolyTechnique

    CalPolyTechnique Well-Known Member

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    Nope. I've never once claimed DMac is a great back. Go ahead quote me where I have.

    You're just so simple-minded you can't understand the nuance of the argument so you try to put things in easy-to-understand categories "well, he doesn't think McFadden sucks like I do, so he must think he's great..."

    I've repeatedly have pointed out that this team's o-line is what greases the wheels of the run game and a good QB is what keeps it running efficiently.

    And in true fashion, you deny that you're comparing DMac to HOF RBs and then you turn right around and do it all over again.
     
  5. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    You never claimed McFadden is a great back but you're making him out to be a great back, if you think he could have led the league last season with 1600 yards with Romo at QB. This argument is about those who think drafting Zeke was a mistake and you're one of them or you wouldn't be supporting McFadden. Many wanted Ramsey who's looked pretty bad so far. He didn't look good at all for JAX on the Thursday Night game. The title of this thread speaks to what this argument is about. The thread back in August that me and you argued in tells you what this is all about. Now stop diverting and answer the questions.

    If a QB makes that big a difference to an RBs success then explain how Eric Dickerson, Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, Jim Brown, Earl Campbell and Adrian Peterson had so much production and HOF careers playing with average to bad QBs? If the QB makes the RB, how did Jamal Lewis rush for 2066 yards in 2003 with Kyle Boller and Anthony Wright? Go look at the numbers those QBs put up. If the QB makes that big a difference for a RB how did Chris Johnson rush for 2006 yards with Vince Young and Kerry Collins? Both were terrible! Do you believe if McFadden started this season he would have the same numbers Zeke has so far?
     
  6. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    There's no comparison to McFadden and those backs and that's exactly what I've been pointing. lol Those backs got it done with average to bad QB situations and some didn't even have great OL's. The Cowboys drafted Zeke because they're looking for that kind of back someone that's special. McFadden is an average back and what he produced last season behind arguably the best OL in football was what any average back could have done. Now stop diverting and answer the questions. If a QB makes that big a difference to an RBs success then explain how Eric Dickerson, Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, Jim Brown, Earl Campbell and Adrian Peterson had so much production and HOF careers playing with average to bad QBs? If the QB makes the RB, how did Jamal Lewis rush for 2066 yards in 2003 with Kyle Boller and Anthony Wright? Go look at the numbers those QBs put up. If the QB makes that big a difference for a RB how did Chris Johnson rush for 2006 yards with Vince Young and Kerry Collins? Both were terrible! Do you believe if McFadden started this season he would have the same numbers Zeke has so far?
     
  7. cityochamps

    cityochamps Well-Known Member

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    Just saw this thread..wondering if anyone here has changed their minds about the pick???
     
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  8. Curmudgeon

    Curmudgeon Well-Known Member

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    Standard week 1 overreaction thread, an internet staple. :muttley:
     
  9. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    Some dug too deep a hole to change their minds, they just can't admit they made a mistake in judgement.
     
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  10. CalPolyTechnique

    CalPolyTechnique Well-Known Member

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    Pure genius.

    Thanks for pointing out DMac is not comparable to any of the list HOF running backs.

    Any other random and irrelevant thoughts for me?
     
  11. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    The fact he's not comparable is exactly why we used the 4th overall pick on Zeke because we're looking for a back that may end up being comparable to those backs. We were looking for a "special" back and we may have found one. Morris is only averaging 3.8 behind our great OL because the back matters! Let's see if you'll answer this question or continue to dance. If you had a do over, would you stay with McFadden as the starting RB and use the 4th overall pick on another position or would you have drafted Zeke? Let's see if your tune has changed since August when we had that big argument. :)
     
  12. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    Anyone want to continue to debate this topic? :laugh:
     
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  13. PA Cowboy Fan

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  14. muck4doo

    muck4doo Least-Known Member

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    It's hilarious to see some of these old rants. :laugh:
     
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  15. Supercowboy1986

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    I just saw this thread. You a Ramsey guy?

     
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  16. LocimusPrime

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  17. Manwiththeplan

    Manwiththeplan Well-Known Member

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    For the love of god, can we let this thread die? How long do we feel the need to rub everyone's nose in this?
     
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  18. dallasdave

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    :popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:
     
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  19. drawandstrike

    drawandstrike Well-Known Member

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    "Football Stupid" has helped propel us to 11-1.

    Just wait until this team has an actual top 5 defense with a pass rush to go with this offense....
     
  20. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    I think the guy that started the thread quit posting so it's not really rubbing his nose in it.
     

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