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News: ESPN: What Garrett can learn from Ron Rivera

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  1. NewsBot

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    IRVING, Texas – On Tuesday the Carolina Panthers handed coach Ron Rivera a three-year contract extension through 2017. According to reports he will make between $4-$5 million a year. The point of this post isn’t to suggest Jason Garrett, who is entering the final year of his contract as Dallas Cowboys head coach, should receive an extension. I believe Jerry Jones makes a good point about “lame duck,” status when he said at the Senior Bowl he’s seen plenty of coaches not get it done when they have multiple years on their contracts.

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  2. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Do it for the Vine! Staff Member

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    See... I'm not the only one who sees the similarity between Rivera and Garrett's situations. Hmph!
  3. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    I don't get it. What is he supposed to learn from Ron Rivera?
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  4. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Do it for the Vine! Staff Member

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    IMO, the overall point is that Rivera entered last season very much on the hot seat, turned the team around, got them to the playoffs, and got a contract extension.

    Garrett enters the 2014 season under very similar circumstances. He would likely need to achieve what Rivera did in order to be retained. The coaching circle is small, maybe JG can go pick Rivera's brain to see what he did different. *shrug*
  5. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    Ron: Okay, the first thing I did is I made sure I had a sane owner and an actual legit personnel department.

    ~click~

    Ron: Hello?.....Hello?......Jason?....Are you still there?
  6. adamknite

    adamknite Well-Known Member

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    How to sign a contract extension?

    but seriously... I think it was trying to say "things could turn around if Garrett keeps it together and not focus on the "lame duck" status" and that's what he was supposed to learn from Rivera (because of all the early season record followed by late season record talk), but who knows. It seemed like it's focus was more about comparing two situations than it was about Garrett actually taking a page out of Rivera's book.
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  7. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Do it for the Vine! Staff Member

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    Sometimes the thought process isn't all that deep. "Hey look! Two similar situations!"

    I don't know that I would've made an article about it, but at least I know I wasn't alone in looking at the two situations and coming away with that particular viewpoint.
  8. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    Exactly my point. Apparently Garrett could learn from Rivera that he needs to win more games so he can sign a contract extension.

    Their situations are totally different. This, IMO, is pretty much a waste of a read.
  9. adamknite

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    You can definitely see the similarities between the two. Hopefully things work out similarly as well, Garrett seems like a good guy but I don't think I can take another 8-8 season losing to an NFC east rival the last game of the season to miss the playoffs scenario.
  10. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    Keep the front 7 healthy. That would be a good start.
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  11. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Do it for the Vine! Staff Member

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    Agreed...Team needs to move off 8-8, one way or another. Either lose alot or win alot, but get off 8-8. I also believe that if he got off the 8-8 thing, had a true winning season, 11-5, 12-4, with a playoff berth, then it'll warrant a consideration for an extension. But if it's 9-7, 10-6, I prefer the team to just move on, playoff berth or not. 1-2 extra wins do not signal progress...at least for me.
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  12. vlad

    vlad Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Haha, exactly - I had to re-read this. Was the quality of journalism always this poor?
  13. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    Rivera coached like his job was on the line. He took a lot of risks and got the players to rally behind him. While it appears that Garrett has the team "battling" for him, I do not get the same sensation that Garrett has them lined up behind him to save his job. There is a big difference when you have a coach who does not have the backing of the GM versus one who is treated like a pet project by an owner/GM.
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  14. TheCount

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    What's missing from the article is that Rivera earned the nickname "Riverboat Ron" this past season because he stopped coaching like a computer and started taking bigger gambles. It paid off for an underachieving team with a good bit of talent on the field.
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  15. adamknite

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    I could not agree more with you.
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  16. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    Plus Rivera is obviously a defensive guy, and he's built "his" side of the ball into one of the very best in football -- maybe the best. Garrett's offense isn't as good as it was when he first started calling plays eight years ago.

    But I still don't think anyone would put Rivera in that top echelon of NFL coaches, which should be the goal. Of course Todd Archer isn't concerned with that. He just wants Garrett to get an extension any way he can.
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  17. WoodysGirl

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    I'd like to see a bit of that out of Garrett, too. They can toss out that reverse, double-reverse, whatever play he got in his playbook, tho. That thing hasn't worked EVER.

    But a flea flicker would be awesome. A little trickery here and there, get outside the numbers a bit, and just go with your gut sometimes would be cool, too.
  18. Future

    Future Intramural Legend

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    The biggest problem I have with comparing the two is that Rivera hasn't been with that organization since 2007.
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  19. 17yearsandcounting

    17yearsandcounting Benched

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    Yes, it is a brilliant idea for Garrett to build a time machine and go back and accumulate 15years of coaching experience before taking a top job.
  20. jobberone

    jobberone Genetically engineered moderating Orangutan Staff Member

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    Okaaayy! One attaboy....I mean attagirl.....I mean attaperson to WG. :p :D
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