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  1. lkelly

    lkelly Well-Known Member

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    Or at least any Señor Bowl news if there's a game in Mexico...

    I believe I read on one site where Darren Sproles (Kansas State) measured only 5'5". I was really high on this kid a year ago, but he seems to have fallen in the rankings. I didn't get to see him play much in 2004. He looked to be a quick, elusive kid in 2003. How would some compare him to the Moats kid?

    I also read where Pitt OT Rob Petitti weighed in at over 360 lbs. Oh my! That can't help his draft stock one iota. We are talking about 3 weeks after playing in a bowl game.
  2. AsthmaField

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    I read this on a pay site, and so don't want to copy it and paste it here. What I tried to do was just summarize the information. This info is when the players first mingled with the scouts and coaches. Many teams did short interviews just asking basic questions and in essence was just trying to get to know the players. Nothing really Dallas related, so I'm sorry for that.

    Anyway, here's what I've heard so far:

    New Orleans has paid a lot of attention to UCLA RB Manual White and seems to be interested in him as a FB.

    The Packers seemed to be interested in San Diego St. LB Kirk Morrison.

    The giants seem to be interested in Kickers and punters because thay paid a lot of attention to Mike Nugent, K Ohio St. and Dustin Colquitt, P Tennessee. They also paid particular attention to the OL.

    The Seahawks spent a lot of time with Terrence Murphy, WR Texas A&M, and Shaun Cody, DL USC.

    The Falcons seemed to like Fred Gibson, WR Georgia.

    The Steelers appeared very interested in Syracuse OT Adam Terry. They pulled him aside twice and kept him for over an hour.

    The Chiefs spent a lot of time looking at defensive prospects, in particular Marcus Lawrence, LB out of South Carolina. On the offensive side they did talk with Craphonso Thorpe, WR, FLA St.

    Ronald Fields DL out of Mississippi State seemed to draw everyone's attention, as many teams wanted a peice of the guy.

    Chicago put Michigan OG David Baas through a lengthy interview and seemed reluctant to let him make his rounds with other teams.

    Carnell Williams, RB Auburn made a brief appearance on the floor and then dissapeared.
  3. AsthmaField

    AsthmaField Outta bounds

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    In something Dallas related... I did read where today (Monday) neither Jerry jones or Bill Parcells was there. They should be there early in the morning tomorrow.
  4. Nors

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    He's big boned and not a "fat" 360 if thats possible.
  5. Nors

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    (11:30 AM): Players weight in... This week's Senior Bowl week kicked off with the measuring and weighing of players this morning. OTs Adam Terry of Syracuse and Wesley Britt of Alabama were the tallest players, both at 6-7 1/2; they were followed by OTs Jeremy Parquet of Southern Miss and Eastern Washington's Micheal Roos, both of whom measured in at just over 6-6. Meanwhile, another OT, Rob Petitti of Pittsburgh, was the heaviest player at 361 pounds. DT Anthony Bryant of Alabama was 345, while Virginia OG Elton Brown tipped the scales at 331. On the other hand, the shortest player as Kansas State RB Darren Sproles was measured in at barely 5-5, while Oklahoma State was the lighest position player at 170 pounds. Hopefully, we'll have the full list of heights and weights tomorow morning.
    (9:00 AM): Live and in color from dowtown Mobile!...After a bit of a harrowing trip and some continuing minor technical problems we are indeed back on the air live from the Senior Bowl. Hopefully we'll be back later with updates. In the meantime, here is the updated selection order for the first round of the 2005 draft after yesterday's NFC and AFC title games.
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  8. lkelly

    lkelly Well-Known Member

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    It's not.
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  11. lkelly

    lkelly Well-Known Member

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    Sorry. 6'5" and 361 is overweight regardless of his bench press. There's not a team in the NFL that would tell him otherwise. Parcells would have his fat *** on a scale and be in full mocking form.

    He's got 30 pounds on any other offensive lineman at the Senior Bowl. And he hasn't even trotted out some sort of excuse about using medication to treat sinus polyps.
  12. Nors

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    Baas - If we could snake him late in 1 or in Round 2 we are Golden!
    We need to upgrade Oline too! Gurode is a bust - move him for a bag of footballs or a Day 2 pick. Cardinals will take him I'm sure.


    Dreesen is a nice H back prospect.
    My Boy Petitti will need a few Days to warm up, he's a notorious slow starter :D
  13. Nors

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    SENIOR BOWL HEIGHTS/WEIGHTS
    POS
    Player
    School
    HT
    WT

    QB
    Charlie Frye
    Akron
    6-3.1
    222

    QB
    Dan Orlovsky
    UConn
    6-4.5
    230

    QB
    Kyle Orton
    Purdue
    6-3.5
    226

    QB
    Brock Berlin
    Miami
    6-1.0
    216

    QB
    Jason Campbell
    Auburn
    6-4.1
    228

    QB
    David Greene
    Georgia
    6-2.7
    223


    POS
    Player
    School
    HT
    WT

    RB
    Nehemiah Broughton
    Citadel
    5-10.7
    249

    RB
    Kay-Jay Harris
    West Virginia
    5-11.6
    232

    RB
    Cedric Houston
    Tennessee
    5-10.2
    225

    RB
    Carnell Williams
    Auburn
    5-10.1
    206

    RB
    J.J. Arrington
    California
    5-8.3
    206

    RB
    Noah Herron
    Northwestern
    5-10.5
    221

    RB
    Darren Sproles
    Kansas State
    5-5.6
    185

    FB
    Zach Tuiasosopo
    Washington
    6-1.1
    244

    FB Will Matthews
    Texas
    6-1.0
    250

    FB
    Manuel White
    UCLA
    6-1.5
    242


    POS
    Player
    School
    HT
    WT

    WR
    Reggie Brown
    Georgia
    6-1.1
    194

    WR
    Fred Gibson
    Georgia
    6-3.5
    194

    WR
    Matt Jones
    Arkansas
    6-5.7
    242

    WR
    Terrence Murphy
    Texas A&M 6-0.4
    194

    WR
    Craphonso Thorpe
    Florida State
    6-0.3
    190

    WR
    Roddy White
    Alabama-Birmingham
    6-0.1
    204

    WR
    Craig Bragg
    UCLA
    6-0.3
    194

    WR
    Mark Clayton
    Oklahoma
    5-9.6
    187

    WR
    Vincent Jackson
    Northern Colorado
    6-4.3
    238

    WR
    Brandon Jones
    Oklahoma
    6-0.7
    207

    WR
    Courtney Roby
    Indiana
    5-11.6
    185

    WR
    Taylor Stubblefield
    Purdue
    5-10.0
    172

    TE
    Alex Holmes
    Southern California
    6-1.3
    267

    TE
    Cody McCarty
    Texas Christian
    6-3.4
    255

    TE
    Joel Dreesen
    Colorado State
    6-3.3
    256

    TE
    Alex Smith
    Stanford
    6-3.6
    257


    POS
    Player
    School
    HT
    WT

    C
    Jason Brown
    North Carolina
    6-2.1
    306

    C/G
    Chris Myers
    Miami
    6-3.6
    290

    C
    Junius Coston
    North Carolina A&T
    6-2.6
    310

    OG
    Elton Brown
    Virginia
    6-4.3
    331

    OG
    Marcus Johnson
    Mississippi
    6-5.7
    313

    OG
    Evan Mathis Alabama
    6-4.6
    298

    OG
    Logan Mankins
    Fresno State
    6-3.7
    297

    OG
    David Baas
    Michigan
    6-3.7
    320

    OG
    Dan Buenning
    Wisconsin
    6-3.4
    315

    OG
    Jonathan Clinkscale
    Wisconsin
    6-1.7
    316

    OT
    Wesley Britt
    Alabama
    6-7.5
    309

    OT
    Jeremy Parquet
    Southern Miss
    6-6.2
    318

    OT
    David Stewart
    Mississippi State
    6-5.7
    310

    OT
    Khalif Barnes
    Washinton
    6-5.1
    304

    OT
    Rob Petitti
    Pittsburgh
    6-5.2
    361

    OT
    Michael Roos
    Eastern Washington
    6-6.3
    312

    OT
    Adam Snyder
    Oregon
    6-4.3
    313

    OT
    Adam Terry
    Syracuse
    6-7.5
    324


    POS
    Player
    School
    HT
    WT

    DT
    Anthony Bryant
    Alabama
    6-2.3
    345

    DT
    Shaun Cody
    Southern California
    6-3.5
    293

    DT
    Ronald Fields
    Mississippi State
    6-1.6
    307

    DT
    Mike Patterson
    Southern California
    5-11.3
    290

    DT
    Lorenzo Alexander
    California
    6-1.4
    290

    DT
    Jonathan Babineaux
    Iowa
    6-1.7
    279

    DT
    Attiyah Ellison
    Missouri
    6-3.5
    305

    DT
    Anttaj Hawthorne
    Wisconsin
    6-2.7
    317

    DT
    Jim Davis
    Virginia Tech
    6-2.7
    272

    DE
    George Gause
    South Carolina
    6-3.6
    268

    DE
    Mike Montgomery
    Teas A&M
    6-4.3
    271

    DE
    Demarcus Ware
    Troy
    6-3.5
    247

    DE
    Trent Cole
    Cincinnati
    6-2.0
    245

    DE
    Bill Swancutt
    Oregon State
    6-3.6
    266

    DE
    Jimmy Verdon
    Arizona State
    6-2.6
    274

    DE
    Marcus Spears
    LSU
    6-3.3
    302

    DE
    Matt Roth
    Iowa
    6-3.1
    263


    POS
    Player
    School
    HT
    WT

    LB
    Michael Boley
    Southern Miss
    6-2.1
    231

    LB
    Leroy Hill
    Clemson
    6-0.4
    223

    LB
    Marcus Lawrence
    South Carolina
    6-1.5
    237

    LB
    Robert McCune
    Louisville
    5-11.5
    245

    LB
    Cornelius Wortham
    Alabama
    6-0.7
    231

    LB
    Alfred Fincher
    UConn
    6-1.0
    237

    LB
    Lance Mitchell
    Oklahoma
    6-1.5
    239

    LB
    Kirk Morrison
    San Diego State
    6-0.3
    233

    LB
    Jared Newberry
    Stanford
    6-0.4
    239

    LB
    Barrett Ruud
    Nebraska
    6-1.7
    240


    POS
    Player
    School
    HT
    WT

    CB
    Ronald Bartell
    Howard
    6-0.5
    208

    CB
    Abraham Elimimian
    Hawaii
    5-8.7
    183

    CB
    Alphonso Hodge
    Miami (Ohio)
    5-10.3
    201

    CB
    Darrent Williams
    Oklahoma State
    5-8.1
    170

    CB
    Vincent Fuller
    Virginia Tech
    6-0.5
    185

    CB
    Eric Green
    Virginia Tech
    510.5
    188

    CB
    Bryant McFadden
    Florida State
    5-11.5
    185

    CB
    Carlos Rogers
    Auburn
    6-0.0
    195

    CB
    Corey Webster
    LSU
    5-11.2
    197

    CB
    Travis Daniels
    LSU
    6-0.1
    187
    DB
    O.J. Atogwe
    Stanford
    5-10.6
    214

    DB
    Jammal Brimmer
    UNLV
    6-0.4
    205

    DB
    Sean Considine
    Iowa
    5-11.5
    204

    DB
    Stanley Wilson
    Stanford
    5-11.1
    186

    DB
    James Butler
    Georgia Tech
    6-1.3
    207

    DB
    Junior Rosegreen
    Auburn
    5-10.7
    190


    POS
    Player
    School
    HT
    WT

    P
    Cole Farden
    Oklahoma State
    5-9.7
    203

    P
    Dustin Colquitt
    Tennessee
    6-2.1
    207

    PK
    Mike Nugent
    Ohio State
    5-11.0
    179

    PK
    Jonathan Nichols
    Mississippi
    5-10.5
    186
  14. Avery

    Avery The Dog that Saved Charleston

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    Patterson checked in under six feet. Ouch.

    What is Spears doing at 303 for a DE?
  15. Nors

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    Is a classic 3-4 DE, He's played that at LSU. I love hi ssize and explosiveness. Knocks are he may take plays off. I can see a team like Houston, Pats, Steelers, Chargers making a move for him.

    If we go Zimmers 4-3 again - Don't even bother looking at RDE. All they ask is that he stands the Tackle up and they let the midgets make plays. :iggles: :skins: :jints:
  16. Gaede

    Gaede Well-Known Member

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    According to NFL Draft Countdown, we're looking at Hawthorne

    Good news that we're not just looking at lower level guys

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    As if the prospects playing in the game weren't enough the stands have been littered with other top prospects who are working the NFL circles as well. I had a chance to speak with Arizona St. QB Andrew Walter who said his rehab is coming along fine and that he isn't ruling out being able to take part in the combine workouts but if nothing else he will definitely be able to show his wares before the Draft in late-April. Clemson CB Justin Miller was in attendance and while he may not have great height I can tell you from standing next to him he is solidly built. At this point he has not decided whether or not he will work out in Indy. Others in attendance were ILB's Channing Crowder of Florida and Odell Thurman of Georgia, RB Ciatrick Fason of Florida, athlete C.J. Leak of Tennessee, OT Trai Essex of Northwestern, WR Dante Ridgeway of Ball St. L.S.U. C Ben Wilkerson was also making the rounds and he told me that he is still about 1-1 1/2 months away in his rehab and won't be able to work out at the combine but he will be in attendance. Then there was also the smattering of others big names including "The Shark" himself, Drew Rosenhaus, making the rounds.

    Now, onto the football! The North squad practiced first this morning with K Mike Nugent of Ohio St. and P Cole Farden of Oklahoma St. the first two guys on the field about an hour early. Nugent looked very impressive and was showing off his leg strength with kick attempts in the high-50's and he even nailed a 63-yarder. DE / OLB Trent Cole of Cincinnati looked much better at his new position today which bodes well for his ability to make the move. Ronald Bartell, a sleeper CB prospect from Howard, looked big and smooth and worked at both corner as well as safety again. In my mind his best pro position might be at safety though because he really struggled in man-to-man coverage. CB Abraham Elimimian of Hawaii looked very small but he made some plays today and stood out among the cornerbacks and was especially impressive in coverage. U.N.L.V. S Jamaal Brimmer struggled in coverage and showed poor hands, unable to catch anything clean. On the other hand O.J. Atogwe of Stanford showed good ball skills and continued to make plays.

    On the offensive side of the ball Akron QB Charlie Frye continued to look sharp making all the throws and showing a nice touch on the deep ball. The standout of the day however may have been WR Mark Clayton of Oklahoma, who doesn't have ideal size at just a little over 5-9 but runs tremendous routes, has good hands, is quick and a terror after the catch and has the speed to separate. Some team is going to have a steal if they can overlook his stature. Taylor Stubblefield of Purdue also continued to impress at wideout doing everything well and just making the play every opportunity he got. Vincent Jackson of Northern Colorado has garnered serious praise from scouts for how well he moves at his size but he struggled to catch the ball a little again, although he did make a great play near the end of practice when he got seperation and caught a bomb. Finally, Craig Bragg of U.C.L.A. did a nice job on the short and intermediate routes and looks like a nice possession receiver. Along the offensive line Michael Roos of Eastern Washington continued to hold his own and did a nice job when matched up against Matt Roth in one-on-one drills.

    When the South took the practice field in the afternoon there was a noticeable difference in the attitude and intensity of the players and the team was much more spirited and feisty than their counterparts. Coach Jon Gruden was working with the quarterbacks on their cadence early and a guy who really stood out was David Greene of Georgia, who showed off his accuracy and was able to make most of the throws. Jason Campbell of Auburn showed nice touch and accuracy, dropping the ball down the chimney to Reggie Brown on one throw, but Brock Berlin of Miami seemed to have to put everything he had on his throws and it still took a while for them to get to their target. Cadillac Williams of Auburn, perhaps the biggest star in attendance, showed off his quickness and was absolutely explosive while Kay-Jay Harris of West Virginia drew oops and ahhs when he absolutely leveled Vincent Fuller on a running play. The two Georgia wideouts, Fred Gibson and Reggie Brown, made some plays with Gibson certainly looking the part but Brown had a little trouble holding onto the ball. TE Alex Holmes of USC is thick and physical but looked stiff and unathletic and didn't leave me all that impressed. One of the big stories of the week is Matt Jones, who is making the move to wide receiver and didn't embarrass himself at all. He is very tall and a little lumbering but he has the speed, quickness and athleticism to make it and even made a nice play where he held onto a ball over the middle despite getting laid out by a big hit. After practice Jones said he just needed reps and is more than willing to make the move from quarterback and appreciates all the top coaching he is getting this week. The secondary is a star studded group and while I hope to spend a lot more time focusing on them tomorrow but a couple of guys who stood out were Carlos Rogers of Auburn and Bryant McFadden of Florida St., while Corey Webster of L.S.U. was very disappointing. James Butler, the S from Georgia Tech was also very impressive in drills.

    After the practice I was able to speak with top defensive lineman Shaun Cody of USC and Marcus Spears of L.S.U. Cody is training with Athletes Performance in Los Angeles and hopes to stay inside at tackle while Spears said he is open to playing either end or tackle but feels he has made a lot of progress outside the last couple of years. Both players looked very impressive physically and carry their weight well and look like they would each be able to pack on some more pounds if necessary. And finally, you can take it for what it is worth but after practice scouts usually rush to talk with certain players and here is a list of some of the things I saw: DT Anttaj Hawthorne of Wisconsin was mobbed by Dallas scouts, Carolina talked with J.J. Arrington, Michael Roos and Manuel White, who they told he was a good fit for their system, Baltimore spoke with Adam Terry, Taylor Stubblefield talked with San Francisco and New Orleans, Cincinnati and New Orleans sought out OG Marcus Johnson of Ole Miss, Ben Wilkerson spoke with Kansas City and Corey Webster conversed with Carolina as well as former NFL safety Marcus Robertson, now working with the Titans. Could any of this be a sign of things to come? We shall see.
  17. Oh_Canada

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    That safety from Stanford would make a nice choice if we could get our hands on a third round pick.

    Cole might end up in Dallas if he is around in the fifth round.

    I bet Spears and Cody are both high on the Cowboy wish list.

    Not a big fan of the Bulldog recievers...Brown is a hard worker with little football skills and Gibson has tons of skill but seems to lack desire.

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