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First round alternatives

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by fortdick, Feb 11, 2012.

  1. fortdick

    fortdick Well-Known Member

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    Most draft sights and folks posting here have to opinion that DeCastro, Jenkins and Kirkpatrick are the three logical picks for us in round one. Looking at the rankings and the issues I see some alternatives that intrigue me.

    First, I think DeCastro will be long gone before we pick. Jenkins and Kirkpatrick are both viable picks, even though they have baggage that makes me shy away.

    Two players I am intrigued with are SS Mark Barron and Center Peter Konz. Both are reaches at 14, but there should be teams wanting to move up as coveted players slip. Konz fixes maybe the biggest hole we have in the oline and Barron can fix a hole we have had since Woody left. Both are as close to sure thing solid starters as you can get, although Konz has potential to be an all pro. Barron is a solid character guy that is slipping due to injury.

    I believe trading down for either of these two would be very smart if DeCastro is gone.

    Another player I am really interested in is FB Joe Halahuni from Oregon. A big back that can catch. Fiametta showed us how important a good FB is to our running game, but his ability to stay healthy has been a question with him. Seeing that he is a FA this year and may walk, Halahuni may be a great late round pick up.
  2. Garland powerplay

    Garland powerplay Active Member

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    This team needs to draft defense . The offense was good enough to make playoffs w/ an avg. defense. This defense was below avg. and offense tanked the final month $ 4 sure
  3. robert70x7

    robert70x7 Active Member

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    So you want to draft a player that just had a double sports hernia, will be out until August and is not a ballhawk? Pass.

    You want to draft a center with a severe blood disorder who is one bad spell away from missing serious playing time? Pass.
  4. RS12

    RS12 Well-Known Member

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    Jonathan Martin or Kuechly are a couple names for you.
  5. fortdick

    fortdick Well-Known Member

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    I don't see a double sports hernia as career threatening. Not like he is having brain surgery!

    Although he is ocnsidered the best center in the draft, you would dismiss Konz because of a condition from 2009? I guess two seasons at Div I level isn't a test to see if he is able to play?

    Maybe we should rely on guys that take dope for recreational purposes, they are always more dependable.
  6. fortdick

    fortdick Well-Known Member

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    I like the Kuechly idea, if for no other reason than to keep him away from the Eagles, but ILB in the first round would be a luxury I am not sure we could afford. Kinda the same with Martin. Both solid picks, but in areas we have other options.

    One thing: I am sick of taking CB's in the first that don't play to the hype.
  7. Teague31

    Teague31 Defender of the Star

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    Barron or kOnz are huge reaches at 14
  8. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    If DeCastro of one of the two corners were not there, then I'm trading down.

    If I can't trade down I'm taking the highest rated player on my board, whoever it is.
  9. fortdick

    fortdick Well-Known Member

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    I acknowledge this, however, I don't think either is a huge reach...just a reach.
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  11. SDogo

    SDogo Not as good as I once was but as good once as I ev

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    I'm warming to the idea
  12. Canadian BoyzFan

    Canadian BoyzFan Active Member

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    Brockers, Poe and Konz in a trade down scenario.
  13. Zaxor

    Zaxor Virtus Mille Scuta

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    I am not thrilled with the talent in this draft...if I could trade down I would but so many other teams would like to trade down too they aren't stupid...so I would trust my board and hope for the best
  14. realtick

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    Sports hernias are not serious injuries. The only reason this even seems dramatic is because it will likely keep Barron from participating at the Combine. The pro day at Alabama is still a possibility for him.

    I would also say 12 interceptions while at 'Bama would constitute being a "ballhawk." Not to mention, 13 TFL and 5.0 sacks would indicate he's a playmaker.

    If he was healthy, I think he'd be a perfect bottom end of the 1st round type of pick. If he can be had in the 2nd round I'd seriously consider.

    Barron also has leadership intangibles that are appealing.
  15. realtick

    realtick Benched

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    Word.
  16. tm1119

    tm1119 Well-Known Member

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    There's no way DeCastro is "long gone" by the time we pick. No team is going to pay the price tag of a rookie guard that is a top 10 pick. CBA or no CBA. If he goes before us its more than likely going go be right before us to the Cardinals at 13.

    Given that scenario that he does go 13 and we don't pick a CB I think we would have to strongly consider Devon Still provided he's still there. I'm not crazy about a 3-4 DE at #14, but he's a consensus top prospect in this draft and he would fit our scheme. I would be all for a trade down if possible though.
  17. realtick

    realtick Benched

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    I like Devon Still, but I don't view him as any more talented a prospect than guys like Jared O'drick, Cameron Heyward, or Mohammed Wilkerson. I also think the back end of the 1st round is where he should go too, which is where all those guys went.
  18. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    Just because he is supposedly the best 3-4 DE in the draft does not mean much. I do not see him as any real improvement over what we have now. No way do I use a 1st for someone like that.
  19. Eskimo

    Eskimo Well-Known Member

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    My preferences (roughly in order) amongst players who may be available:


    Coples
    DeCastro
    Jenkins
    Ingram
    Brockers
    Glenn
    Hightower
  20. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    Not a Still fan.

    I don't see a guy who's as productive as his athleticism.

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