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News: FWST: Callahan says team still have confidence in Arkin, who can be a backup at C/G

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  1. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Do it for the Vine! Staff Member

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    -- Carlos Mendez

    David Arkin still has the confidence of the Cowboys’ coaches, who believe they can trust him to be a backup at guard or center if they need him.

    “My hat goes off to him,” offensive line coach Bill Callahan said Thursday at Valley Ranch. “He took numerous repetitions in training camp. I think he ended up with the most reps of any offensive lineman. So he acquired some real good experience, which will afford us, if we do bring him up or make him active for a game, to have him in a backup role, not only at the guard spot, but at the center position as well.

    “We’re trying to build our depth. There’s no better way to do that than to have him take advantage of the situation that occurred in Oxnard.”

    Read more here: http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.co...-who-can-be-a-backup-at-center-and-guard.html
  2. BIGDen

    BIGDen Dr. Freakasaurus Zone Supporter

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    Well let's hope he's right because I have no confidence in Arkin. He looks Procteresque to me at this point.
  3. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    Arkin showed good movement skills.

    Yeah, he needs more strength, but he at least looked like he knew what he was doing.

    I think there's something to build on.
  4. Eskimo

    Eskimo Well-Known Member

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    I don't know if Arkin will ever be ready but I am pretty sure he isn't ready right now.

    If Cook were to go down we would be looking for a starter at Centre and not a backup.

    I still think the best solution is to sign Holland, get a competition between Mack and Cook at Centre and the winner starts there with Holland at RG.

    You can get the roster space by releasing the CB we just signed or trying to move Arkin onto the PS. I really doubt there is all that much interest in a guy who plays OL on skates.
  5. baj1dallas

    baj1dallas New Member

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    Yeah great, that's the guy you want hiking the ball to Romo every week. Face it he's not strong enough to stop any NT in the league. If he's starting, the game is over.
  6. BIGDen

    BIGDen Dr. Freakasaurus Zone Supporter

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    AAAAAMEN!!!!! The idea that Dockery and Arkin are one injury away from starting is beyond disturbing. Holland should have been signed a while ago.
  7. jjktkk

    jjktkk Active Member

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    I'm looking at Winicki's post, and where exactly does he say that Arkin would be "hiking the ball to Romo every week"? Arkin is a prospect that is still raw, needs to get stronger, etc..., but dude, why rant and rave about him potentially starting? Hes a developmental backup. Chill out.
  8. Teague31

    Teague31 Defender of the Star

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    I still don't get the Holland love. There are 31 other teams out there and not one has signed him.
  9. Eskimo

    Eskimo Well-Known Member

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    Well we had him here last year and saw what he could do once he committed himself and got into shape.

    I think he graded out as a top 10 OG in the league last year. He was very good run blocking and good pass blocking. He gives you a clean pocket because no one can push him back with his low center of gravity and tremendous ability to anchor. He also has good lateral agility in tight spaces. His weakness is getting out in space.

    So I know what he can do and everyone else in the league ignoring him doesn't prove anything to me.

    I know we are a better team with him. The team admitted as much when they worked out Loper, Dockery and Holland. The problem was they couldn't come to terms with him on a deal.
  10. Bullflop

    Bullflop Well-Known Member

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    Maybe Arkin will gain a sufficient amount of strength in time and maybe he won't. I'd still prefer we draft another o-lineman early next draft, though. I wouldn't expect a staff member like Callahan to say anything other than to express confidence in his charges anyhow. What's he supposed to say; he's too weak and is developing at a snail's pace? Highly unlikely. I'll be quite disappointed if we don't draft another interior offensive lineman fairly early-on next year.
  11. jaybird

    jaybird Active Member

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    Mee too, many Zoners think they know better than Callahan.

    Am I'm happy with depth, no. But clumsy Holland is not the answer.
  12. BIGDen

    BIGDen Dr. Freakasaurus Zone Supporter

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    Many of us expressed concern over our interior OL situation last year and wanted Waters (who wanted to come here), but I guess the Cowboys staff "knew better". Unfortunately, they don't always make the right call. Eskimo's post about why Holland would be a good signing explains why some of us are still hoping we sign him. Nobody thinks that the guy is All-Pro, but he is better than Dockery or Arkin. If you think that either of those guys are better than Holland, then you judge talent and ability very differently than I do. Holland would be on this team if the Cowboys agreed to include playing time incentives (which seem only fair for a guy who has proven to have the ability to start). Let us all pray that we do not suffer any more OL injuries this year, because the depth is not good.
  13. jaybird

    jaybird Active Member

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    Again, you and others proclaim this with out knowing what kind of shape Holland is in or his readiness to compete. Like another poster pointerd out; Holl;and is still unemployeed, with many other teams having OLO depth issues-hmmmmm. With regards to Waters, this league does have salary cap limitations, you simply cant sign everyone you want. If so, the riches teams would remain at the top--See Yankees.... This year we put our largest egg, in the Carr basket. We can debate about that move if you choose. Carr vs. signing a top tier OL.. In defense of the Cowboys brass, we did suffer an excessive amount of OL injuries. I had High hopes for Nagy and Killa. But thats football.
  14. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    last year was a text book example on what not to do on the O line.

    Whoever thought Costa was a starting caliber player last year needed to go; hopefully that was Houck.

    Whoever decided to pass on Waters was a MORON.

    Holland was the only smart move they made during the season on the O line.

    For those that somehow are blind he was quite good at Guard last year later in the season.

    Now no one has come out and said he is not in shape; the word has been he wanted too much money. Which is up to him and no one else.
  15. stasheroo

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    And none of them, save for New England, had the sense to sign Waters last year did they? Hmmmmmmm...

    As for Holland? He was apparently in good enough shape to out-perform both Dockery and Loper when all three worked out - by a wide margin. His only 'sin' was wanting to get paid better than league minimum.

    That's a load of bull. This team was in no way 'capped out' or unable to pay him what he wanted. They chose not to - wrongly. Save the revisionist history lesson.

    And what do 'high hopes' get you?

    Nobody is suggesting having Pro Bowlers at every position, but there are better ways to deal with depth than 'hopes'.
  16. visionary

    visionary Well-Known Member

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    but callahan said he can be relied on and "took the most reps in TC"
    so he must be ready :eek:
  17. jaybird

    jaybird Active Member

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    This, next year OL should be #1 priority. Sorry, but Holland would not be an upgrade. He wiffs on blocks and falls on his face. I'm confident in the fact if he was an upgrade he would have been paid. I too am a little surprise Dockery still on the team, but I trust Callahan's judgement.
    With that said, I am concern the OL or lack of depth will hold us back. Mark my words though Killa will help this team this year--eventually.
  18. visionary

    visionary Well-Known Member

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    i hope you are not suggesting the we actually plan for the future

    that would be just crazy
  19. dboyz

    dboyz Active Member

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    I think it is too late to start shuffling the pieces around. Bern has not played a lot of center and is just settling down as guard for us. I think Cook is the center now, if Costa comes back we have competition. If Kowalski comes back we have more competition.
  20. stasheroo

    stasheroo Well-Known Member

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    No arguments from me here.

    I'm not confident. Not when all reports said that Holland was far and away the best of the three that worked out. His only 'sin' was in wanting incentives put into his deal if he actually played.

    Even if you're right, that's 4 more weeks away - at best.

    If anything happens to Cook within that time frame, we're in serious trouble.

    It scares me that the team keeps pushing their luck at the center position.

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