Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by CowboyMcCoy, Jul 21, 2013.
I'll say 7.
He's been underwhelming thus far but I gave him an extra point based on some of the Tweets that I've read. Sounds like he's being more assertive this year and demanding better execution.
I think it's sunk in that he's on the hot seat so he's in desperation mode; going against his generally laid-back personality.
Its over 9000!
Confident to do what?
10 if you are talking about the team going 8-8 again.
1 if you are talking about the team going deep into the playoffs.
I feel exactly the same way. Garrett is operating with a handicap anyway you slice it. A few years ago I thought Garrett's biggest asset was that Jones was willing to defer to him more often than not. He now seems to have lost that asset, for reasons mostly outside of his control.
Coaches generally don't play although occasionally one will run on the field and make a tackle. Once I saw a coach punch another player but he stayed in the game (the player not the coach). We are gaining on the league talent wise looking at the overall roster. We have a good offense although it didn't score enough last year. The defense should do reasonably well this year. If they can give up 20 or less and we score 25+ then I expect Garrett will look better. As a coach. PS: Playing scout QB doesn't count.
With Jerruh he could be displaced easily, especially as other teams around the NFC specifically, continue to improve drastically over this roster.
Overall, I haven't been as confident in a coach since Jimmy, and that includes Parcels. That said, this team needed more than just good coaching.
Garrett's the equivalent of that top-ten first round drafted QB that you put in the lineup for a season or two, and your team doesn't improve immediately because it's got more problems than just QB. We're on the right track with him, but had a lot of things to address. We're making progress.
Listening to Jerry, I think the organization is absolutely sold on him, and I don't think he's on the hot seat many fans seem to think he's on right now. I think he's probably got another two full seasons under him unless something dramatically negative happens.
With play calling off his plate, maybe a 6 or 7. I'm still not sure he's much of a coach, but he's a heck of a leader. Taking play calling off his plate raises my confidence from where it was last year, which was probably a 3 or 4.
I'm interested to see how/if answers change as the season goes on. I plan on bumping this thread, just to gauge what seems to be one of the biggest question marks on the team. Answers are all over the place.
I'm going to go with a 2, since I've been one of his biggest critics. I'll be happy to eat my words though.
I have never been real confident of him and thought he was in over his head for this organization. A lot of things have to go right for him to succeed here and that includes avoiding camp injuries. We lost one player today and lets hope that is the worst of it.
That said, I watched him closely today and he was all over the place. He went from group to group and it seemed like he spent the majority of time watching the defense doing different drills. At one point, I was watching the linebackers hit the metal blocker thing and I happened to look to my right, Garrett was a few feet from me watching them.
I can only be so confident until I see how things have changed in a real game. Until then, I remain skeptical.
So, yeah, coaches are pointless.
Don't bump old threads!
If its a Garrett thread you can be sure Cowboy McCoy is the OP.
I'll go 7.
Last year he made some bone head calls that lost us the games and I think a lot of that had to do with the fact that he was the HC and OC. I know he is a smart guy who will find a way to succeed so I'm gonna say I'm at a 7 for him this year. If he was still doing HC/OC duties he'd be a 5 or less. Let's do this!
It's a lot more considering that he's no longer calling the plays. I believe this league is about player development (particularly at QB). I think Wade may have been a better 'pure' coach than we thought. But, he had a real problem with keeping players motivated and could not develop talent. That's why we started out going 13-3 under Wade and outside of 2009, the team regressed.
I think Garrett has done a great job with developing talent. But the talent pool was shallow because of Wade's inability to develop players. I tend to believe that Garrett's ability to develop players will lead to him have some great success. But, I don't think we could afford to have him calling plays for much longer. If anything, there's too much of a book on how he calls plays with this team. A fresh playcaller can shake things up a bit.
My real concern right now is if we can get a season where the injuries are at a moderate level under Garrett. If the coach can never get that, after a while you have to start blaming the coach for the way they run practices or stress 'not making the club if you're in the tub.'
The one thing that blows me about Garrett is that we know for sure "His scheme works" I hate admitting that but it does. The ball moves down the field with ease more times. The problem is the red zone, if we covered more FG's to Touchdowns we'd be the Packers or the saints. The other thing is I don't want another coach. Not as in I love Garrett but I don't want to be the team we were in the late 90's with a thousand different coaches.
But to answer the question about a 8, and that's based on the fact that Garrett is a Offensive coach and our offense isn't the real problem.
conf level ... 8-8
Im confident in 3 people with the Dallas Cowboys.
Romo, Dez, D Ware.
Everyone else I don't trust as much and Garrett is probably at the top of my don't trust list.
Coaching is SO overrated. Bill Belichick didn't go far at all with the Browns, but has taken the Patriots to 5 Super Bowls. The difference is that Belichick has been running the show in New England, & is an excellent talent evaluator. It's great players, plain & simple. You're a genius with them & a moron without. The Cowboys haven't had a consistently great team ever since Jones & Co. have been doing the evaluating. It's that simple.