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Going Into the Season, What is your Confidence level in Garrett?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by CowboyMcCoy, Jul 21, 2013.

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  1. igtmfo

    igtmfo Well-Known Member

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    Great post.

    Garrett is still owed between 6-8 million, perhaps more, the next two seasons. Jerry is frugal by nature. He isn't going to fire Jason while he has any value to the team and watch that money turn into water. Jason has it seems organizational skills, can contribute something, even if its only at the level of a QB coach or film study. If things go south this season, Jason may get "promoted" into some kind of GM-by-title or other such maneuver while listening to smooth jazz on his sideline headphones. Besides the dough owed to Jason I think Jerry may be too proud to fire him, seeing as he was Jerry's personal project/enthusiasm over nearly the past decade. With Callahan getting play calling, Jason may even be more stripped of power than we can possibly imagine at this moment.

    In the weeks after Jason was promoted mid-season to HC a cupla years ago, he got players' attention much more than Wade had been able to do in locker room speeches etc. - you could see that on TV - players gave Jason the benefit of the doubt about "greatness to come". ... But today, after a few years of competence as OC, playcaller, HC but in no way much above-average results demonstrated in anything, players get it just like we do, don't kid yourself. I don't imagine Belicheat makes good motivational speeches either but, sheesh that thing on Peter King's site the other day.

    I'll quote Parcells once more when asked about whether a certain player has promise - he would say: "I don't know yet, he doesn't have demonstrated ability." ... Still waiting for Jason to show "demonstrated ability." He had above-average offenses only two years - the first with Sparano as co-OC and also in 2010 when Wade was fired and you figure teams were running scrubs on D because we were already so far behind, at least the first part of the season when we went 1-7.
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  2. NumOneQB

    NumOneQB Active Member

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    It won't matter as Jerruh has stripped the guy of his duties, in the public eye, against his will. Garrett's staff probably has a few members chomping at the bit at their chance to sit in the HC seat as they've all seen it's a put up or shut up year.

    GarretTop 3000 rating 1.5/10
  3. Eric_Boyer

    Eric_Boyer Well-Known Member

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    one of the lone bright spots in the front office, I give him an 8.5
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  4. Joe Rod

    Joe Rod When Keeping it Real Goes Wrong

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    I like Garrett now much more than I liked him at this time last year. He should not have been juggling calling plays and being the head coach (some of that should be on Jerry Jones for his insistence). I am not a fan of how Jerry presented all of the changes to the staff because it really gave the public a perception of Jason being neutered, but I am a fan of the changes that occurred and I really think he will benefit from them.
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  5. Cogan

    Cogan Active Member

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    Johnson coached well because he had the talent to coach. Wasn't he the guy who went 1-15 his first season? The difference wasn't Johnson the coach, it was Johnson the talent evaluator. Once he brought in great players, he was only then able to reach the heights that he reached.
  6. cml750

    cml750 Well-Known Member

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    I give him a 7 since he is no longer calling plays. He was absolutely terrible pulling double duty as OC and HC. I am extremely hopeful for him this year and will give him the benefit of the doubt. If he was still calling plays my confidence level would be about a 2. I am confidently hoping his giving up play calling will be the start of a very long and successful coaching career.
  7. CowboyMcCoy

    CowboyMcCoy Business is a Boomin

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    My confidence went up 1 point, from a 2 to a 3 since he's no longer calling plays. I have much more confidence in Callahan. And I think this helps Garrett by default. He's not involved, so it decreases the the chance of him making the mistake he's prone to make.
  8. Hostile

    Hostile Tacos are a good investment Zone Supporter

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    Actually, he's very involved. Listen to the interviews. It is his Offensive System. He is still part of the game plan. That is involvement.
  9. CowboyMcCoy

    CowboyMcCoy Business is a Boomin

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    I wouldn't say "very" involve. Last year he was very involved, too involved in fact. He designed the offense and it's effective moving the chains between the 20s. But inside the 20s, it has struggled. I have hope we can fix that. And I'm even more hopeful now that Garrett isn't involved in the play calling. I want him involved as little as possible. We have Callahan on the offensive side of the ball and Kiffen on the defensive, which helps him a lot I think. I don't want him walking and chewing gum at the same time. He's not ready to be that kind of coach.
  10. Hostile

    Hostile Tacos are a good investment Zone Supporter

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    Actually, he's very involved.
  11. CowboyMcCoy

    CowboyMcCoy Business is a Boomin

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    Yet somewhat less involved than last year, since he won't be calling plays....
  12. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    Listening to Jerry he always sounds sold on his HC but I do get the sense he's not giving up on Garrett anytime soon. I also don't think Garrett's on the hot seat some think he's on because he looks too relaxed. I think Jerry has a 5 year plan already in place with him and barring the team quitting on him he'll be here the next 3 years regardless of how things go. Jerry said last year "we're just getting this thing started with Jason" and he's already said Garrett isn't coaching for his job this season. I believe Jerry made his mind up when he hired Garrett that he was going to invest several years developing him as a HC.
  13. CowboyStar88

    CowboyStar88 Well-Known Member

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    As the draft came to a close and the mini camps came to a close and TC started and after the HOF game I would say I am finally all in on JG this year. I really like what he's done this year. This team seems hungry and focused and they seem to want to get better. I am all in.
  14. Hostile

    Hostile Tacos are a good investment Zone Supporter

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    You need to tell Bill Callahan this, because he clearly doesn't know it.

    http://www.dallascowboys.com/multim...he_Plays/98fb8755-c26d-4dea-8276-2f9183b3a26a

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    I love where he ratifies Jason Garrett's comment to the DFW media that THEY are making too big a deal out of who calls the plays. You really need to set him straight, so he can set Garrett straight. I can get you an e-mail address for him.
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  15. McLovin

    McLovin Well-Known Member

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  16. AmberBeer

    AmberBeer Well-Known Member

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    Maybe Jerry's finally learning something.
  17. CowboyMcCoy

    CowboyMcCoy Business is a Boomin

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    Wow, it's coaches talking to the media. I'm not saying JG won't be involved and of course they're calling the plays together. But most of the callas are out of JG's hands. You act like you've never listened to a coach spin the media instead of vice versa. That's what Callahan is doing here, spinning them.
  18. Hostile

    Hostile Tacos are a good investment Zone Supporter

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    Oh, so when he says this is Garrett's Offense several times that is spin? It isn't Garrett's Offense at all.

    When he says several times that game plans are created by the entire staff and that coaches and most players know exactly what the game plan calls for in a given situation, that too is spin? Game plans are created by one guy, and no one else has any input.

    And when he says all teams operate that way, that is spin too? No teams operate that way except us.

    Really good information to know Ben. Much obliged for the 411. I definitely see the wisdom of believing you over him. I mean after all he only has 14 years of NFL experience and 19 years of college experience on his resume. Hopefully he'll learn to tell the truth instead of spinning stuff.

    I'm going to go lie down now. I'm dizzy from all of his "spinning."
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  19. Bleu Star

    Bleu Star Agent Coulson

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    Now that Garrett is no longer calling plays, I have great confidence that he can at least call timeouts at the appropriate intervals and efficiently utilize his little challenge flags. The move to take away his play calling duties will prove to be the single greatest positive impact on the offseason. Hallelujah.
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  20. Zimmy Lives

    Zimmy Lives Well-Known Member

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    In Redball I trust.
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