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Golden Tate - 4.36 Jordan Shipley - 4.57

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by AustnIsMySaviour, Feb 28, 2010.

  1. TheCount

    TheCount Pixel Pusher

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    Yes, and that takes concentration and focus, especially if you miss or drop one, can you get your focus back and get the next one? There aren't very many "under duress" tests at the combine since there is no contact, so this is as close as you'll get to putting a receiver under pressure.
  2. casmith07

    casmith07 I'm the best poster in the game!

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    If they can't return punts or kicks, I don't want them.
  3. Silverstar

    Silverstar Active Member

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    k done eating...yum. :)

    Alright, ever hear of an "out-route"?

    You run up the seam, the ball is already in the air, you cut towards the sideline, turn and find the ball, catch it and then keep both feet in bounds.

    This drill shows me more about body control, hands and concentration than the gauntlet.

    When do you ever catch a ball one after the other?

    How bout never!

    Makes no sense to me and Mayock admits that coaches don't like it.
  4. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    lol
    Oh boy, here we go again.
    Slate...ya killin' me with this racial stuff.:laugh2:
  5. Vintage

    Vintage The Cult of Jib

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    Shipley is white?
  6. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    A 4.6 (or 4.57..whichever was right) is a disappointment to some though. I always like seeing the receivers in the real drills because that's more the game of football. But if some said Shipley had great speed--and he was being touted as a possible return guy too--that time has to hurt him some.

    The hands and route-running drills are big though. I recall Eddie Royal a couple fo years ago just looking outstanding. I'm thinking his spped was only so-so too, but I'm not sure.
  7. Cover 2

    Cover 2 Pessimists Unite!!!

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    Yes I have heard of an out route...

    What the gauntlet does that running an "out-route" doesn't is force one to catch under duress. Look, I agree that there are better ways to pull off what they're trying to do than the gauntlet, but those would involve contact. Catching a single pass with no one on you is much easier than catching ten thrown at you in succession.

    I'm not saying it's a perfect drill, but I think it best shows whether someone catches with their hands or body (besides game film that is).
  8. Bob Sacamano

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    The 4.57 didn't give it away, Mr. Weave?
  9. CATCH17

    CATCH17 1st Round Pick

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    How old are you?

    Im 24 and usually when someone brings up your whiteness as a receiver, RB, Runner, or guard Guard in basketball than 99.9% of the time it is nothing but a compliment.

    I've never seen anyone get offended by someone saying this except in the message board world.
  10. Rampage

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    :laugh2:
  11. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Now now, look at the big guy Gerhart out running McCluster.
    But yeah, I'd have to say the 4.57 is fairly slow...more like Clayton than some thought possibly.
  12. Vintage

    Vintage The Cult of Jib

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    McCluster ran that slow because he wants to be a Cowboy.
  13. SDogo

    SDogo Not as good as I once was but as good once as I ev

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    Old enough to have been around the block and been raised dirt poor and seen things I would hope you never you would have to see. Old enough to remember what racial profiling can do and seen how it can start out as fly by comment but cost people their lives.

    Again, I'm not going to speak on it anymore. Everyone stands by their morals not matter how big or small another person views them. I;m sorry if I cant conform to your ability to see this as any kind of a joke or compliment.
  14. AustnIsMySaviour

    AustnIsMySaviour Benched

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    lmao, in all seriousness im pretty sure he stumbled out of the gates, which cost him at least a tenth of a second.
  15. CATCH17

    CATCH17 1st Round Pick

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    He ran more than one 40 in the mid 4.5's.
  16. Bob Sacamano

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    We'd be better off just continuing the development of Ogletree.
  17. SDogo

    SDogo Not as good as I once was but as good once as I ev

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    That I'm not going to argue with. I think Dallas has something is Tree and I would hope any selection of a WR would be to help his growth and not replace his production.
  18. AustnIsMySaviour

    AustnIsMySaviour Benched

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    really ? w.e lol he looked good in the highlight tapes, much faster then a 4.5
  19. Bob Sacamano

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    About the same size. Wiggle. And although his college production didn't show it, Tree is a pretty sophisticated wide-out for how inexperienced he is.
  20. CATCH17

    CATCH17 1st Round Pick

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    I agree he is fast. I've seen a lot of ultra fast guys run 4.5's.

    Jacoby Ford just got a lot more interesting after dropping his 4.2

    Hes a legit football player.

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