Gosselin's top 100

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by gimmesix, Apr 27, 2011.

  1. InmanRoshi

    InmanRoshi Zone Scribe

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    I don't mind Dareus in the teens, but if I'm taking a DL with a the 2nd pick in the draft I want someone who makes some plays on the other side of the line of scrimmage. Dareus rarely did that.
  2. Sam I Am

    Sam I Am Unfriendly and Aloof!

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    I think the kid is going to be better than you think. He isn't the disruptor that Suh is, but the guy is quick and he is a wall that is damn hard to get past. (He will be better than Gerald McCoy) He is quick and can shed blocks and get to his man. He is easily better than Marcus Spears. There are only two player players I would take before Dareus. Peterson and Tyron Smith. The only reason I take Smith first is because it's a more valuable position and I think Smith is going to end up being one of the better tackles in the league.

    If a 4-3 team takes Dareus, I think he ends up being like a Marcus Stroud. A run stopping machine who can push the pocket backwards especially in a 1-on-1 situation that happen for 4-3 DTs. If he goes to a 3-4 team, it will be hell to run at him. It will be even worse if he plays DE that team has a decent OLB hanging off his hip.
  3. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    When Casserly was asked about Fairley's stock falling, he said he hadn't talked to one team that had Fairley ahead of Dareus, ever.

    Funny, Parcells has Solder as his #1 OT and now Goose hears he's the #2 OT. Still can't figure out why so many people think he's garbage.

    Seems to me that the two QBs are such a wild card this year. Both have big upside but also big question marks. I just can't see both of them falling that far, though.
  4. InmanRoshi

    InmanRoshi Zone Scribe

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    Stroud might be a very good comparison...

    From his 2001 Draft bio...

    That's kind of how I feel about Dareus. Stroud has only averaged 3 sacks a year for his career. He was pretty much a stout run plugger who rarely made plays on the other side of the line of scrimmage.

    Again, not that I necessarily hate Dareus, but just that I want more big play ability out of the #2 pick. I still can't get over the fact that Fairely literally made more than double the plays behind the line of scrimmage that Dareus did, when they played in the same conference against largely the same compeition.

    If you're picking Dereus at #13 (where Stroud was drafted), I would be more at ease with him.
  5. Outlaw Heroes

    Outlaw Heroes Well-Known Member

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    Based upon his time here, I have a hard time placing much stock in Parcells' evaluation of offensive lineman (though he did a great job in terms of evaluating talent at other positions). In fact, I'd go so far as to suggest that his evaluation may lend credence to the prevailing view that Solder is garbage.
  6. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    Yeah, IR, Dareus is a guy I was hoping we'd take early in the process before his stock shot up... It seems like he got graded up for his combine workouts, because IMO he doesn't play as athletic as he timed. He does seem like more of a run player, and I'm not sure he's a top-3 kind of guy.

    But again, he's supposedly a great character guy, and I suspect Fairley has more negative things going on than we know about. And that does matter a lot when you're paying a young guy a fortune.

    Also, are we sure Dareus wasn't just doing what was asked of him in Saban's scheme?
  7. gimmesix

    gimmesix Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life

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    Even if we draft Smith, you might have to go another season w/Colombo on the right side. Food for thought.
  8. burmafrd

    burmafrd Benched

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    Even a raw rookie would be better than colombo
  9. AmishCowboy

    AmishCowboy if you ain't first, you're last

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    This is my backup plan as well
  10. 28 Joker

    28 Joker 28 Joker

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    Cowboys get a steal at 9.

    Tyron Smith
  11. CrazyCowboy

    CrazyCowboy Well-Known Member

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    41, James Carpenter OT Alabama
    what was the seahawks thinking?
  12. dbair1967

    dbair1967 Arch Defender

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    Food for thought, no it aint gonna happen.

    Colombo will be released.
  13. StarHead69

    StarHead69 Well-Known Member

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    Goose did a pretty darn good job again. Here's whats left to start round 2.

    22, Da'Quan Bowers DE Clemson
    26, Marvin Austin DT North Carolina
    31, Aaron Williams CB Texas

    34, Andy Dalton QB TCU
    35, Marcus Cannon G TCU
    36, Ryan Williams RB Virginia Tech
    38, Akeem Ayers S UCLA
    39, Kyle Rudolph TE Notre Dame
    40, Ryan Mallett QB Arkansas
    42, Daniel Thomas RB Kansas State
    43, Greg Little WR North Carolina
    44, Brooks Reed DE Arizona
    45, Kenrick Ellis DT Hampton
    46, Ras-I Dowling CB Virginia
    47, Rahim Moore S UCLA
    48, Torrey Smith WR Maryland
    49, Jarvis Jenkins DT Clemson
    50, Orlando Franklin OT Miami
    51, Mikel Leshoure RB Illinois
    52, Titus Young WR Boise State
    53, Lance Kendricks TE Wisconsin
    54, Stephen Paea DT Oregon State
    55, Randall Cobb WR Kentucky
    56, Will Rackley G Lehigh
    57, Edmond Gates WR Abilene Christian
    58, Allen Bailey DE Miami
    59, Terrell McClain DT South Florida
    60, Martez Wilson OLB Illinois
    61, Shareece Wright CB Southern California
    62, Taiwan Jones RB Eastern Washington
    63, Colin Kaepernick QB Nevada
    64, Brandon Harris CB Miami
    65, Bruce Carter OLB North Carolina
    66, Rodney Hudson C Florida State
    67, Dontay Moch DE Nevada
    68, Shane Vereen RB California
    69, Luke Stocker TE Tennessee
    70, Jah Reid OT Central Florida
    71, Leonard Hankerson WR Miami
    72, Marcus Gilchrist CB Clemson
    73, Steve Wisniewski C Penn State
    74, Kendall Hunter RB Oklahoma State
    75, K.J. Wright OLB Mississippi State
    76, John Moffitt G Georgia
    77, Tandon Doss WR Indiana
    78, Drake Nevis DT LSU
    79, Marcus Gilbert OT Florida
    80, Pernell McPhee DE Mississippi State
    81, Ben Ijalana G Villanova
    82, Jabaal Sheard OLB Pittsburgh
    83, Jalil Brown CB Colorado
    84, DeMarco Murray RB Oklahoma
    85, Rashad Carmichael CB Virginia Tech
    86, Jerrel Jernigan WR Troy
    87, Johnny Patrick CB Louisville
    88, Jurrell Casey DT Southern California
    89, Clint Boling G Georgia
    90, Bilal Powell RB Louisville
    91, Ricky Stanzi QB Iowa
    92, Jaiquawn Jarrett S Temple
    93, Brandon Burton CB Utah
    94, Sam Acho DE Texas
    95, James Brewer OT Indiana
    96, Rob Housler TE Florida Atlantic
    97, Quinton Carter S Oklahoma
    98, Jerrell Powe NY Mississippi
    99, Colin McCarthy OLB Miami
    100, David Arkin OT Missouri State
  14. jblaze2004

    jblaze2004 Well-Known Member

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    i think we might trade down at 40.
  15. Gaede

    Gaede Well-Known Member

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    Prediction: trade down, grab Ellis
  16. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    I could see that.
  17. BIGDen

    BIGDen Dr. Freakasaurus

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    Bumping this thread for easy reference during the draft.

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