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How Cowboys get down to $104 million - Norm Hitzges

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by robert70x7, Jan 31, 2013.

  1. robert70x7

    robert70x7 Well-Known Member

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    They are at $140 million right now, according to him.


    Ware, Tony, Carr (trigger-clause), Miles, Witten

    June 1st Cuts

    Doug Free, Jay Ratliff, Dan Connor

    Claims we have room to go after 2 primo free agents if we WANT TO (been saying this all along).

    What do you think?
  2. erod

    erod Well-Known Member

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    And how much does this screw us cap-wise down the road?

    I'm for it because I think the time to act with this group is now. But I don't want to be 2-14 with no cap space four years from now either.
  3. robert70x7

    robert70x7 Well-Known Member

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    The time is meow.
  4. Woods

    Woods Well-Known Member

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    I still think Ratliff is staying.

    That said, I do think we can make plenty if room if we want. That would not constrain us. The question is how much of future room does the team want to mortagage?
  5. robert70x7

    robert70x7 Well-Known Member

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    If Ratliff stays on this team, I will strongly consider not watching next season.
  6. CowboysFaninDC

    CowboysFaninDC Well-Known Member

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    with those cuts, it means one of the FAs has to be a DT. as right now we don't have one.

    and then one would need to be an OL man...

    then the draft is focused on OL and DL....
  7. erod

    erod Well-Known Member

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    Shoot, a little drinking and driving? To our boozin' owner?

    Jerry calls that Tuesday.
  8. robert70x7

    robert70x7 Well-Known Member

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    You're right. We shouldn't capitalize on a potential upgrade through free agency because we can get the same positions through the draft. :confused:
  9. ufcrules1

    ufcrules1 Well-Known Member

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    lol... would it really shock you if he stays? We have players show up out of shape and can't pass a basic fitness test and have to jog around the practice field. We are known for holding on to players who are cancers here.
  10. cowboysooner

    cowboysooner Well-Known Member

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    I don't think Norm realizes that all or most of Ratliff's $5m+ salary is g-jack. He would have to kill Jerry Jr. with a flock of angry, poisonous butterflies to get cut.
  11. The Quest for Six

    The Quest for Six Well-Known Member

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    This team isn't two primo players away from competing for a Superbowl..
  12. robert70x7

    robert70x7 Well-Known Member

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    There is still a draft after free agency.
  13. Tass

    Tass Lucky Devil

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    I always hear about 'restructuring' player (insert-name's) contract. Why would a player do that? Why would a player agree to a backloaded deal when the team could then just cut him and avoid paying him? Sounds like the players get hosed on those types of deals.

    Please someone educate me if I'm wrong.
  14. robert70x7

    robert70x7 Well-Known Member

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    Short answer: They get the money eventually.
  15. DejectedFan1996

    DejectedFan1996 Well-Known Member

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    Ratliff is most likely staying. We are already thin at DT. I don't mind as long as we address the oline this off season (Livings/Bernadeau don't count)
  16. chip_gilkey

    chip_gilkey Well-Known Member

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    I thought restructure means that some of their money this year is turned into a roster bonus or something and thus doesnt count towards the cap. in short, they'd get more of the money from later on down the road now instead of later. Definitely could be wrong though.
  17. Mr Cowboy

    Mr Cowboy Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    They get their money now instead of later. They get their payout as a bonus that will count against the cap in future years.

    That said, I can't see a good reason to keep Ratliffe. His production has been declining for the past 3 years, and this past season he suffered numerous injuries and was out most of the season. It's not like he is coming back at 2005 levels, he will be a year older this year, and more declining production for a high contract. Only in Dallas do high priced, aging former stars, have a secure job.
  18. theogt

    theogt Surrealist Zone Supporter

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    There is typically no change in cash flow (either in terms of amount or timing) to the player. In fact, it usually means the player gets more guaranteed money.

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    I don't think anybody has really said that we can't restructure and create room to sign FAs. I think what has been argued is the wisdom behind such a move. The cap is flat for the next few years. If you extend all of these guys, we are going to be in a bad situation in years out. I don't see how that can be a good thing.
  20. jimnabby

    jimnabby Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    You've got it backwards. Restructuring the contract usually means more guaranteed money and more money up-front (bonus money that gets prorated over the life of the contract for cap purposes). Restructuring is usually a no-brainer for the player.

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