How good can JJ Wilcox and Matt Johnson be?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Ultimategamer5567, Jul 18, 2013.

  1. CATCH17

    CATCH17 1st Round Pick

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    I just hope they don't get injured again.

    Our rookies just can't stay healthy. Hopefully this year is different.
  2. IAmLegend

    IAmLegend Well-Known Member

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    Well for our sake they better at least be solid players cause I don't think I can handle another season of our safeties getting blown by over the top every game.
  3. Eskimo

    Eskimo Well-Known Member

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    We seem to be looking for Safeties just like Lbs - instinctive, physical and fast. It seems to be a common description of our back 7 which could really elevate our play. All too often passes have not been contested and bad throws I to double coverage were not being turned into. INTs.

    We have a decent offense and a good DL. We have been losing games in space. This will end with Kiffin and Marbella running the defense.

    We need to start investing in young DL and get a couple more good years out of Rat, Hatcher and Ware. We can be really good this year if the Safeties play as good as I think they will.
  4. Typhus

    Typhus aka...golden

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    Church and Allen leading the pack at this point gives me a level of optimism for the secondary that I havent experienced since the early 90s.
    Allens presence on this D wont be noticed until TC, and Church needs to show what we all feel, and fit this scheme, but the future is in the youth movement,.... thats understood.

    Church and Allen are not just the starters at this point but very early insurance policies, due basically to the level of trust that Kiffin values from his vets at this point.

    What I find really intriguing is the major upside potential in our sub packages with athletes.


    keep an eye on Brandon Magee, at 5'11 and 228 lbs, Kiffin loves his hybrids in sub packages.
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  5. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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  6. FLcowboy

    FLcowboy Hopeful this is the year

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    Wow. That is one heck of a projection. If you are right, and I hope you are, the defense is set for a long time.
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  7. Deep_Freeze

    Deep_Freeze Well-Known Member

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    All we can have right now is hope for the young safeties at this point cause we really don't know enough about them to feel one way or another about them. I know at this time of year hope takes over everything, but I can't see Will 'haven't had an INT since 2005' Allen being the answer back there, so hopefully one of the young guys steps up. Heck, with 11 PDs in a 9 year career, its hard for me to think much about Allen when thats a one season number for a good safety.

    Wilcox seems to have the most upside, but is also probably the most unready to play no matter what they try to sell us. So how good can they be?? The real question is how bad can they be in comparison to what we already have back there.
  8. the_h0wey

    the_h0wey Well-Known Member

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    I think they could easily be as good if not better than Patrick Watkins or Justin Beriault.
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  9. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Take note of who you are replying to. It IS Rash.:D
    Bless his heart, he does speak in hyperbole.
    Better than being overly negative though.

    Some previous Rash winners:

    • In the thread discussing whter or not RG3 would be playing in two years, he said RG3 will still be playing at a Hall of Fame level in two years.
    • There are many like this. One was about one of the ex WRs we had, but I can't recall which one.
    • I think there was some Manziel stuff too. Who knows, could be true someday.
    • So now you can add that Matt Johnson will surpass John Lynch career-wise.
  10. iceman117

    iceman117 Active Member

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    I hope your right, if he is even close to John Lynch that would be unbelievable as a cowboys fan.
  11. iceman117

    iceman117 Active Member

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    I don't know enough about either of them to make a predictions. From what I'm reading they both have a great amount of potential. This could be the Saftey duo for many years to come if what some of these scouts are reporting.
  12. SilverStarCowboy

    SilverStarCowboy The Actualist

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    Hey good question man.

    You know none of us can really say right now.

    Two things are for certain, 1.) their athleticism and instincts blew away most the competition of their level in College AND # 2.) If they succeed in playing up to a Pro level it changes the entire dynamic of this Team and our Season in a very positive direction.
  13. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    I don't think either will be great but if they are good I'm happy.
  14. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    Wilcox has a shot to be a nice find. Matt Johnson figures to be more AOA than a real player. I expect next to nothing from that mega reach.
  15. rash

    rash Member

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    AOA is a stud.
  16. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    Lol! I was waiting for this the second RS quoted rash.
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  17. AsthmaField

    AsthmaField Outta bounds

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    Haha, me too.
  18. Cowboy_Shawn

    Cowboy_Shawn Active Member

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    Based on what? The guy can barely put together two weeks worth of practices without getting hurt.

    And I'm willing to bet everything that I have that fewer than 1% of the Cowboy fan base even had an idea of who this guy was prior to the Cowboys drafting him.

    I'm pulling for the guy too because we need someone to step up at safety. But statements like you made are extremely premature. Especially when talking about a player like Johnson who has literally done nothing but rehab his many injuries during his pro career.

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