Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Zordon, Oct 10, 2013.
Tony a head of Danny only because the final chapter is yet finished.
Troy Aikman took an absolute beating at the beginning of his career. Every time you looked at him his chin was bleeding. He would have been fine during the Meredith era.
Yea I remember sarge. That was not a very well thought out post on my part. I meant it more as an indictment of how brutal the game was back in Meredith's day and the lack of protection afforded to the qbs of that era.
It's really kinda silly to question the toughness of any of those guys. Even tony doesn't get enough credit for just how tough he is.
Ranked according to joseephuss' percentages that show how the QB's passer rating compared to the average passer rating in the league at the time, here are the contributions of the supporting casts:
All rankings are for the five best seasons. For defenses, I used points allowed. For backs, rushing yards. "All-Pro" is the number of combined offensive All-Pro selections (Associated Press All-NFL 1st or 2nd Team).
Romo is the only one that can succeed the way he has with this current team.
Keeping in line with some of the theories here, Eli Manning would be a godlike with his 2 Super Bowl rings.
Aikman is in better shape than Romo .......NOW.
I hope you don't mind that I used your stat and made an adjustment, looking only at the player's five best seasons.
75.2 league average
8.5% above average
Aikman (5 best seasons)
75.1 league average
21.8% above average
All the QB ranked, applying that same adjustment:
Staubach 92.7 (61.7) +50.2%
Meredith 82.7 (67.6) +22.3%
Aikman 91.5 (75.1) +21.8%
Romo 96.8 (80.9) +19.7%
White 85.1 (71.2) +19.5%
lol, it really is hard to take some seriously when you read posts like this
And it's equally hard to give a rip about who you take seriously when you can't even be bothered to come up with any kind of reasoning.
Nice work. Eventually I would like to compare each QB to the average of the top 10 QBs(or maybe top 5 QBs) of each season. I just haven't had the time to compile the data.
Anyone that ranks romo ahead of airman or staubach has some serious issues with reality. Sure aikman had great teams but so did romo to a 13-3 record and still couldn't win a home playoff game. I'm afraid that romo could've had emmitt, novacek, and Irvin and still lost with a critically timed int. qb'ing is more than throwing the ball, it's managing a game, not losing the game, and making a few plays in the clutch. No doubt romo is very talented physically however he's not a great qb. Cutler is physically gifted too but hes not a great qb. Winning trumps everything with a few very minor exceptions....Marino for example, although even he consistently won in the regular season and playoffs....
You got it right...for now.
Depending on how his career ends in a few years, Tony could move ahead of White, but I see no way he moves. Head of the others, despite gaudy stats. Maybe a Lombardy trophy helps him surpass Meredith, but those old enough to have watched Meredith, like me, don't see it.
You could count the number of top 5 or top 10 seasons.
Top 10 Seasons in Passer Rating
Staubach 7 (1971, 73, 75-79)
Aikman 6 (1991-1995, 1998)
Romo 6 (2006-09, 2011-12)
Meredith 6 (1962-63, 65, 66-68)
White 5 (1980-83, 85)
Top 5 Seasons in Passer Rating
Staubach 5 (1971, 73, 77-79)
Aikman 4 (1992-95)
Romo 3 (2006-07, 2011)
Meredith 3 (1962, 66, 68)
White 2 (1981-82)
Average Rank in 5 Best Seasons
That's an excellent tool for comparison, with the caveat that Meredith's rankings are skewed by league size.
I really like this stat...but 19 All-Pro for Aikman? lol ...I'm sure you meant 9 seasons.