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How would you rank Meredith, Staubach, White, Aikman, Romo?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Zordon, Oct 10, 2013.

  1. landroverking

    landroverking Well-Known Member

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    Rodger
    Troy
    Don
    Tony
    Danny.

    Tony a head of Danny only because the final chapter is yet finished.
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  2. cajuncocoa

    cajuncocoa Bleeding silver and blue Zone Supporter

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    1. Staubach
    2. Aikman
    3. Meredith
    4. Romo
    5. White
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  3. joshjwp

    joshjwp Active Member

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    1. Staubach
    2. Romo
    3. Aikman
    4. Meredith
    5. White
  4. Sarge

    Sarge Happy New Year! Staff Member

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    Troy Aikman took an absolute beating at the beginning of his career. Every time you looked at him his chin was bleeding. He would have been fine during the Meredith era.
  5. starfrombirth

    starfrombirth Well-Known Member

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    +1
  6. bark

    bark Well-Known Member

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    Yea I remember sarge. That was not a very well thought out post on my part. I meant it more as an indictment of how brutal the game was back in Meredith's day and the lack of protection afforded to the qbs of that era.
    It's really kinda silly to question the toughness of any of those guys. Even tony doesn't get enough credit for just how tough he is.
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  7. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    1. Aikman
    2. Staubach
    3. Romo
    4. White
    5. Meredith
  8. percyhoward

    percyhoward Research Tool

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    Ranked according to joseephuss' percentages that show how the QB's passer rating compared to the average passer rating in the league at the time, here are the contributions of the supporting casts:

    Staubach
    +26.9%

    defenses 6th
    backs 3rd
    10 All-Pro

    Romo +20.3%
    defenses 15th
    backs 15th
    6 All-Pro

    White +13.2%

    defenses 11th
    backs 8th
    7 All-Pro

    Meredith +12.7%

    defenses 4th
    backs 4th
    10 All-Pro

    Aikman +8.5%

    defenses 3rd
    backs 4th
    19 All-Pro

    All rankings are for the five best seasons. For defenses, I used points allowed. For backs, rushing yards. "All-Pro" is the number of combined offensive All-Pro selections (Associated Press All-NFL 1st or 2nd Team).
  9. Jakethesnake3

    Jakethesnake3 Member

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    1 Romo


    2 Aikman
    3 staubach

    Romo is the only one that can succeed the way he has with this current team.
  10. Jakethesnake3

    Jakethesnake3 Member

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    Keeping in line with some of the theories here, Eli Manning would be a godlike with his 2 Super Bowl rings.
  11. birdwells1

    birdwells1 Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Aikman is in better shape than Romo .......NOW.
  12. percyhoward

    percyhoward Research Tool

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    I hope you don't mind that I used your stat and made an adjustment, looking only at the player's five best seasons.

    Aikman
    81.6
    75.2 league average
    8.5% above average

    Aikman (5 best seasons)
    91.5
    75.1 league average
    21.8% above average

    All the QB ranked, applying that same adjustment:
    Staubach 92.7 (61.7) +50.2%
    Meredith 82.7 (67.6) +22.3%
    Aikman 91.5 (75.1) +21.8%
    Romo 96.8 (80.9) +19.7%
    White 85.1 (71.2) +19.5%
  13. unionjack8

    unionjack8 Well-Known Member

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    lol, it really is hard to take some seriously when you read posts like this
  14. SDCowboy85

    SDCowboy85 Well-Known Member

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    And it's equally hard to give a rip about who you take seriously when you can't even be bothered to come up with any kind of reasoning.
  15. joseephuss

    joseephuss Well-Known Member

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    Nice work. Eventually I would like to compare each QB to the average of the top 10 QBs(or maybe top 5 QBs) of each season. I just haven't had the time to compile the data.
  16. mrmojo

    mrmojo Well-Known Member

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    Staubach
    Aikman
    Meridith
    White
    Romo
  17. ghst187

    ghst187 Well-Known Member

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    Anyone that ranks romo ahead of airman or staubach has some serious issues with reality. Sure aikman had great teams but so did romo to a 13-3 record and still couldn't win a home playoff game. I'm afraid that romo could've had emmitt, novacek, and Irvin and still lost with a critically timed int. qb'ing is more than throwing the ball, it's managing a game, not losing the game, and making a few plays in the clutch. No doubt romo is very talented physically however he's not a great qb. Cutler is physically gifted too but hes not a great qb. Winning trumps everything with a few very minor exceptions....Marino for example, although even he consistently won in the regular season and playoffs....
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  18. Chuck 54

    Chuck 54 Well-Known Member

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    You got it right...for now.
    Depending on how his career ends in a few years, Tony could move ahead of White, but I see no way he moves. Head of the others, despite gaudy stats. Maybe a Lombardy trophy helps him surpass Meredith, but those old enough to have watched Meredith, like me, don't see it.
  19. percyhoward

    percyhoward Research Tool

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    You could count the number of top 5 or top 10 seasons.

    Top 10 Seasons in Passer Rating
    Staubach 7 (1971, 73, 75-79)
    Aikman 6 (1991-1995, 1998)
    Romo 6 (2006-09, 2011-12)
    Meredith 6 (1962-63, 65, 66-68)
    White 5 (1980-83, 85)

    Top 5 Seasons in Passer Rating
    Staubach 5 (1971, 73, 77-79)
    Aikman 4 (1992-95)
    Romo 3 (2006-07, 2011)
    Meredith 3 (1962, 66, 68)
    White 2 (1981-82)

    Average Rank in 5 Best Seasons
    Staubach 1st
    Aikman 4th
    Meredith 4th
    Romo 6th
    White 7th

    That's an excellent tool for comparison, with the caveat that Meredith's rankings are skewed by league size.
  20. 03EBZ06

    03EBZ06 Need2Speed

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    I really like this stat...but 19 All-Pro for Aikman? lol ...I'm sure you meant 9 seasons.

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