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Hsu is still around

Discussion in 'Political Zone' started by burmafrd, Aug 29, 2007.

  1. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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  2. Danny White

    Danny White Winter is Coming

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    I think this story is going to grow some serious legs!
  3. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    Amazing how stuff happens on the fringes of the Clinton machine but never stains.

    Simply amazing.
  4. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    It is amazing how some of these people seem to get away with things.

    What ever happened to Sandy for taking documents out?
  5. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    :laugh2:

    I know. I look at things like that and I just sit here, saliva running down my chin, all slack jaw and dumbfounded.
  6. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    Sandy BURGLAR pretty much got away with it. I mean really, classified documents down your pants?
  7. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    It is mind boggling that he would even go about it that way but to get away with it as well.
  8. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    I think the fix was in somehow. Somebody made a deal.
  9. zrinkill

    zrinkill Diamond surrounded by trash

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    Fugitive Democratic Donor Turns Himself In


    Ties to Local & National Politicians

    By Vic Lee

    REDWOOD CITY, Calif., Aug. 31, 2007 (KGO) - Top Democrats including Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and some local politicians are scrambling to distance themselves from a campaign contributor.


    A man named Norman Hsu, who entered a Bay Area courtroom, has gone from the darling of the Democratic Party fundraising circuit to a pariah.
    Norman Hsu was on the run for a decade and a half.


    State prosecutors say they thought the Hong Kong born naturalized citizen fled to Asia, but in recent years, he lived a very public, political life on the East Coast.


    He surrendered to authorities in San Mateo County, and hours later, he was out on bail.


    Norman Hsu had nothing to say when he left the San Mateo County jailhouse, after making his two million dollar bail.
    The New York apparels businessman, accompanied by his publicist, surrendered at 8:45 Friday morning.


    In 1991, he pleaded no contest to grand theft charges in San Mateo County that would have given him three years in state prison.
    Hsu was charged with running a ponzi scheme, telling investors he sold latex gloves manufactured in Asia, imported by a company called "Just Gloves" with offices on the Peninsula.


    The address turned out to be a post office box.


    Hsu said his company "Unigoal" operated from an apartment on Second Avenue in San Mateo.


    State prosecutors say Hsu ultimately bilked investors out of a million dollars.
    An arrest warrant was issued after he skipped out of his sentencing hearing in November of 1991.


    Authorities say they thought Hsu had fled to Asia, but he surfaced about three or four years ago, eventually becoming a top donor to Democratic candidates.


    He gave $23,000 to Senator Hillary Clinton's Senate and Presidential campaigns. She says she's returning all the money.


    "Well, obviously we were all surprised by this news, and we have a procedure that we follow, and upon verifying it, we returned his money," said Clinton.


    Hsu also contributed $7,000 to Senator Barack Obama, who says he also will not keep the money.


    Locally, Hsu donated $750 to Mayor Gavin Newsom's 2004 campaign. Our calls to his office were not returned.


    He gave the same amount to district attorney kamala Harris. This year, Hsu donated $500 more for her reelection.


    Harris's spokesperson says she'll give all that money to charity.
    Hsu's new lawyer Jim Brosnahan released a statement this afternoon, which says in part ..."Mr. Hsu has pledged to deal forthrightly with this 15-year-old legal issue."


    Hsu's attorney says in this statement, his client learned about the bench warrant from a newspaper reporter.


    His attorney also says in a published report, Hsu thought he had resolved the grand theft case, as demonstrated by the fact that he's lived a very public life.


    He returns to court Wednesday on a bail hearing. His attorney wants it reduced from two million to one million.




    http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?section=local&id=5622858
  10. burmafrd

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  12. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    There was a comedian. I swear I do not remember who it was, I think it was on a radio show one time.

    Anyways he said how is it the most powerful government and military in the world can not find someone (in his act it was bin laden but for the sake of argument let's say it is this Hsu guy)...yet if you have a student loan or some credit card debt they can track you around the world and find you.:laugh2:

    Of course it was a comedy routine but sadly it does make you wonder how people can be tracked down so easily but they have yet to get this guy (Hsu)for so many years. The only viable option I can consider is they really don't want to catch him.
  13. zrinkill

    zrinkill Diamond surrounded by trash

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    Disgraced Democratic Donor Norman Hsu Arrested in Colorado



    Disgraced Democratic fundraiser Norman Hsu was arrested in Colorado late Thursday after he failed to show up for a court appearance related to a felony theft conviction.

    FBI agents took Hsu into custody at St. Mary's Hospital in Grand Junction, Colo., said FBI spokesman Joseph Schadler.


    Hsu had been scheduled to appear in court Wednesday to turn over his passport and ask a judge to cut in half the $2 million bail he posted last week when he turned himself in after spending 15 years on the lam from a felony theft conviction.


    Instead, Hsu failed to show up at the bail reduction hearing and a judge issued a new arrest warrant for him.


    California Attorney General spokesman Gareth Lacy said Hsu's lawyers told prosecutors Hsu arrived by charter jet at the Oakland airport about 5:30 a.m. Wednesday local time and then wasn't heard from again.


    When it became apparent that Hsu had fled the state, California authorities sought the assistance of the FBI, whose agents arrested him Thursday night on charges of unlawful flight to avoid prosecution, Schadler said.



    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296012,00.html
  14. BrAinPaiNt

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    Saw this on the news this morning.

    Guy was on an Amtrack train in Colorado. They stopped somewhere and he was really sick so they checked him into a Hospital and the FBI got him there.

    Now maybe the will be smart and hold him without bail.
  15. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    Wanna bet he gets away again?
  16. Rocky

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    Fugitive political fundraiser Norman Hsu was behaving erratically as he fled the Bay Area on Amtrak's California Zephyr, at one point stripping off his shirt and shoes, before paramedics were called to take him off the train in western Colorado, passengers said Friday.

    Hsu, 56, on the run for the second time from a 1992 grand theft conviction in San Mateo County, was arrested Thursday after the paramedics took him to a hospital from the train station in Grand Junction, Colo. A spokesman at St. Mary's Hospital said Friday night that Hsu was in fair condition but would not say what was wrong with him.

    Hsu boarded the train in Emeryville about 7 a.m. Wednesday, Amtrak said, two hours before he was to have appeared in a Redwood City courtroom in connection with his grand theft conviction. He had touched down earlier that morning on a charter jet flight to Oakland, his lawyer told prosecutors. Amtrak said he boarded the Zephyr with a ticket for Denver.

    Passengers interviewed Friday when the Zephyr reached its final destination of Chicago said it appeared that something was wrong with Hsu.

    Alberto Dee, 21, who boarded the train in Truckee, said Hsu "freaked out" when Amtrak personnel approached, and was roaming a train car "without shoes and no shirt. ... I thought he had a suitcase full of crack or meth."

    Another passenger disembarking in Chicago, who declined to give his name, said Hsu appeared disoriented and was having trouble opening a door on the train. Several other passengers said they were told Hsu was behaving oddly but did not witness it themselves.

    Hsu's attorney, Jim Brosnahan, said Friday, "a great many friends of Norman Hsu have expressed concern about his mental health and physical well-being" since he disappeared. Paramedics were called to the Grand Junction station about 10 minutes after the Zephyr pulled in Thursday at 11:05 a.m. with "a request for a backboard to assist someone who had fallen on the train," said Mike Page, a spokesman for the Grand Junction Fire Department.

    Paramedics helped Hsu off the train and took him to St. Mary's Hospital. "He was assessed on the train but was able to get off the train on his own with assistance," Page said, adding that the backboard ultimately was not needed.

    Dan Roberts, 57, a furniture maker from Grand Junction, said Hsu had been sitting up on a stretcher on the station platform and appeared to be moving.

    "We just figured he had a heart attack or something," said his wife, Cheryl Roberts, 52, a nurse.

    Federal agents arrested Hsu at St. Mary's Hospital about 7 p.m. Thursday. Hospital officials would not say how authorities had been alerted that Hsu was there.

    Brosnahan said he was "pleased and relieved" that Hsu was now being cared for at the hospital. "We will be getting him the best medical care available."

    "The strain he has been under during the last week has been enormous and, perhaps, unbearable," Brosnahan said in a prepared statement.

    On Wednesday, after Hsu failed to show up for his court hearing, Brosnahan said he was concerned about his client. But when asked whether Hsu posed a danger to himself, Brosnahan replied, "I have no basis for that speculation."

    Hsu was under armed guard at the hospital on federal charges of unlawful flight to avoid prosecution. California Attorney General Jerry Brown's office sought federal authorities' help after Hsu failed to appear at Wednesday's hearing to surrender his passport.

    Hsu had been a fugitive for 15 years since skipping his sentencing on the grand theft conviction, transforming himself during that time into one of the Democratic Party's more prolific donors.

    The federal charges will be dropped once Hsu is returned to California to face sentencing in state court in the grand theft case, FBI spokesman Joseph Schadler said. A timetable for his return to California has not been established.

    Hsu was facing up to three years in state prison and restitution payments after pleading no contest to a single count of grand theft in 1992 in what prosecutors described as a $1 million fraud scheme involving the supposed resale of latex gloves.

    In fact, prosecutors said, Hsu was running a Ponzi scheme, in which early investors get returns on their money through funds that subsequent investors put in, and the later investors lose their shirts.

    After he fled sentencing in San Mateo County, Hsu appears to have spent time in Hong Kong, the Philippines and Taiwan, before emerging in recent years as a New Yorker who donated generously to Democratic political campaigns, regularly attended fundraisers and was photographed with party leaders.

    Hsu has given an estimated $600,000 to Democratic political campaigns since 2003, money that many candidates are now pledging to donate to charity.

    Hsu surrendered to San Mateo County sheriff's deputies last week after press accounts linked him to the grand theft case. He spent a few hours in county jail before posting $2 million bail and agreeing to relinquish his passport.

    After Hsu failed to show up in court Wednesday, a judge issued a no-bail warrant for his arrest.


    Chronicle correspondents Matt Bigelow and Daniel B. Honigman reported from Chicago, and staff writer John Coté reported

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/09/08/MN9IS19EH.DTL
  17. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    trying to set up a insanity defense?
  18. Rocky

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    Or hysterical over the thought of being the next victim of Arkancide.

    On another note, one has to ponder who's behind this money and just how far back it goes. I'm guessing east, wayyy east, if you know what I mean.
  19. zrinkill

    zrinkill Diamond surrounded by trash

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    Wonder if Mrs. Clinton is trying to make some more problems disappear.

    Wonder what will come out if this guy goes to trial?

    Wonder if anyone would believe more crazy conspiracy theories.

    :)

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