I think Seattle has a great shot at 2, then 3 straight

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    REDVOLUTION Return to Dominance

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    I was so upset that we did not have a shot at a three-peat.

    We would have crushed San Diego.
    Then still had enough to beat stealers the next year(as we did with help of timely ints).

    I see this Seattle team with their defense and a QB that probably gets even better

    I can really see them repeating. Then going for 3.

    Unlike the ravens, giants, packers etc. when they had their chance.

    Peeves me. We didn't even get the chance to see if we could do it.
  2. Richmond Cowboy

    Richmond Cowboy Well-Known Member

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    Their biggest obstacle is their brutal division. SF will challenge them, Arizona is tough, and the Rams are up and coming with two more first round picks this year.
  3. Nunez21

    Nunez21 Active Member

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    Their biggest obstacle is the salary cap. All their best players are on rookie deals. Maybe they can repeat but that's about it. SF is going to have the same problem soon.
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  4. speedkilz88

    speedkilz88 Well-Known Member

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    Those ends they got were on 1 year deals and the qb is looking at a bid pay day soon. They will have trouble keeping it all together. There is unlikely to be any more dynasty type teams.
  5. barney

    barney Active Member

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    I agree they have the potential and they were by far worthy winners everyone knew the ravens were a one off. The only think with Seattle is if they meet a team with very good receivers they do an excellent job at stopping the opposition QB from playing but a team with a couple quality receivers and a team that got early downs and it would be very interesting
  6. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    No. Their biggest obstacle is remaining hungry. Fighting complacency. This is why it's so tough for any team to repeat.

    This game isn't played by robots. The Seahawks will have to find a way to keep that edge against an entire schedule that will be gunning for them. It's tough to do.
  7. Nunez21

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    Ok... lol
  8. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    I'm guessing you're like 16 years old or something.

    Actually, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are.
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  9. Idgit

    Idgit If you food, you gonna be ate. Staff Member

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    They've got miles to go to get into position to repeat, much less three-peat. But they're in great shape. We haven't even really seen how good the offense might be with Harvin in full-time. And then they're getting Pudding-hip back next season who'll make that WR corps even better. Plus, they get to draft people, too.

    Should be fun to watch them, anyway.
  10. Nation

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    Ravens won zero playoff games since their 2012 win. Same with the giants from their 2011 win. Packers have won one playoff game since 2010. Saints two since 2009. Steelers 2 since 2008.

    Sustained success is incredibly difficult.
  11. Nunez21

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    I know you like to come here to argue and try to make yourself look smart so I won't bother.

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    It's interesting that you say this. I was listening to a discussion last night and the point was made that none of the last 8 Super Bowl winning teams have even won a single playoff game in the following year, much less repeated.

    2006 Steelers 8-8 No playoffs
    2007 Colts lost to Chargers 28-24
    2008 Giants lost to Philly 23-10
    2009 Steelers 9-7 No playoffs
    2010 Saints lost to Seahawks 41-36
    2011 Packers lost to the Giants 37-20
    2012 Giants 9-7 No playoffs
    2013 Ravens 8-8 No playoffs

    Now, not saying that Seattle can't break the string here but I thought it was a very interesting trend on Super Bowl Champions and Dynasty hopes.

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    That's a wise choice. I congratulate you for making that decision.
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  14. Oh_Canada

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    It's no going to happen.
    The QB is due for a monster raise...SOON, and so is half the secondary and dline. The Seahawks are going to hit the cap wall in very short order and they won't be able to load up on top free agents like they did this past year.
    I wouldn't put it past them to win another in the next three years, but I think three-peats or even three of four SB teams are a thing of the past.....sadly.
  15. wileedog

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    I agree. The Niners are going to come into the season knowing they have to get home field advantage if they want to advance. Winning in Seattle is just too tough. They are going to be on a mission.
  16. Nunez21

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    But what if they're hungry? :)
  17. tyke1doe

    tyke1doe Well-Known Member

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    What he says is a major factor. Football is a very emotional game. It's hard to sustain emotions that long, particularly when you win.
    Did you hear what A.J. McCarron said about Alabama's chance to three-peat. He said many of the younger players didn't have the discipline, the mental composition to compete for a third championship. They thought that they could just "show up" and win games. But it doesn't work that way.

    The Bills 4-peated in terms of getting to the Super Bowl. But I honestly believe had they won one of the first three, they wouldn't have gotten back. Their motivation was losing. It's different when you win.

    I don't see the Seahawks three-peating. In fact, I don't think you'll see a team three-peat. The dynamics are just too different now with free agency, distractions, etc.

    And you have to remember that when the Cowboys won their games in route to Super Bowls, they DOMINATED opponents. They beat San Francisco by 10 and 17 points. They beat Green Bay by double digits. They beat Philly by double digits. And they beat their Super Bowl opponents by double digits.

    With all due respect to the Seahawks, they beat the Saints and the Niners by single digits. The games were a lot closer than the scores. And as someone already pointed out, the Niners aren't that far behind. Neither are the Cardinals (who beat them) and the Rams. Those teams will be gunning for the Seahawks.

    Furthermore, no team that Seattle faced really had a running game. You know how to beat the Seahawks? Invested in an offensive line and a workhorse running back and pound them. Take their secondary out of the game. Frustrate them instead of letting Seattle frustrate you. While I like Russell Wilson, he's not Drew Brees, Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers.

    They may win back-to-back but not a three-peat. Of course, I could be wrong.
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  18. tyke1doe

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    That's very hard to do, which is what people are saying.
    Why would they be hungrier than the Cowboys, the 49ers, the Steelers and the Patriots, all of whom had the opportunity to vy for three-peats in an era where you actually could three-peat because you could keep your roster intact moreso than you can today?
    Their roster is going to be ravaged because their big-time players are going to want more money. Once you've won that ring, you're out to get as much money as you can because your playing days are short and you're likely not going to make as much money as you are while playing.
    The same thing that happened to other teams is likely to happen to the Seahawks.
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  19. Ntegrase96

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    I doubt they will repeat, and I definitely don't think they'll 3 peat.

    But they have a better shot than most of the teams the past few years.
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  20. Ntegrase96

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    That's an interesting idea there (the bolded part).

    I don't think losing motivates you as much as it frustrates you, adds extra pressure, and makes you start to second guess yourself, other teammates, and maybe even coaches.

    NFL history indicates it's easier to repeat than it is to lose a super bowl and then win it the following year.

    There have been 8 separate times a team has been back to back champions. Only twice has a team lost a super bowl and then won it all the next year-- that was Dallas and Miami, surprisingly in back to back super bowls (V and VI).

    There's actually been more cases of repeat champs than repeat losers. Only 3 teams have lost consecutive super bowls; the Vikings, Broncos, and that Bills team you mentioned.

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