Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by Goku, Feb 27, 2012.
who are known as the best in the business?
I know that about 15 months ago, when the University of Texas was looking for a S&C coach, we looked towards the SEC. Tommy Moffit of LSU was one of the top names. We ended up getting Bennie Wylie from Tennessee. Our S&C was a bit of a joke with Jeff Madden (one of the reasons UT players got labeled as soft), but Wylie has turned the whole S&C program around. He's going to make a name for himself (he already has, really).
UT(both) Wisconsin, Nebraska, tOSU, bama, USC i think
i have no idea for sure about maryland but I know that it seems every year they have guys that put up impressive numbers at the combine and that has to come from somewhere.
madden used to be one of the best, i don't know what happened to him. i think the program as a whole got lazy. as good as wylie is, he is still a relative newcomer.
moffit is definitely one of the best. he is blessed with a fertile recruiting base but he turns those recruits into monsters on defense.
Wisconsin is beyond a doubt on another level. 90% of their staff is NFL quality.
Nebraska used to be a power house, no idea what's going on there now.
Stanford is making waves in that area lately.
Iowa is decent. Wisconsin though as Sdogo said is on another level. One reason why I am not as hopeful for Nagy getting much bigger or stronger.
Tennessee's players used to look like monsters. Especially on the defensive line/linebackers. I don't know what happened with that program.
You guys are forgetting an obvious one. Oregon. Phil Knight has that place outfitted like crazy.
Florida is strong.
I know their facilities are outstanding but is the program itself top notch? i really don't know
They are producing freaks like Ngata and Stephen Paea who did like 50 reps at 225 so yea....
The QBs seem to do 30 reps... lol.
Bear Bryant's Texas A&M Junction Boys just ask Gene Stallings and Jack Pardee who had to endure it. :laugh2:
paea is OSU
USC, Cal (who is about to have an out of this world weight room and program), LSU, Texas, Wisconsin, and Ohio State are the top programs that come to mind.
The answer to this one is easy. Alabama. Period.
Saban and his S&C and overall player development program with Scott Cochran is the best in College football. He covers everything from physical to mental development.
Look at the number of first round picks and total picks the past couple years as Saban's recruits are finally reaching the NFL. He might have 5 more first rounders this year. His players are the most NFL ready that come from College ball. That's what the scouts say.
I'm not 100% certain you can state that all of the "elite" programs have great S&C programs. Example Texas brings in a ton of kids that are already at or near their college size and many if not most are already fully developed.
Also, you can't judge a S&C program by how their kids do on the bench press at the combine. The reason I say that is that there are multiple styles of S&C that can be done. Many schools are getting away from old school power workouts and going to systems that provide more flexibility, core, and real world strength than standard power workouts. They do this because it has proven to keep the athletes healthy and better able to recover when they do get injured.
I don't know if they still have their ranking system, but at one point, Glass from Oklahoma State was considered one of the top 5 S&C coaches in the entire world regardless of sport or level. I doubt he's fallen much from that plateau. The funny thing is that you look at the 225 numbers from the combine and you see Blackmon with 14, Blatnik with 32, Martin with 19, and Thomas with 20 and you would wonder if he's all that great. But look over their careers and they might have missed 2 games as an entire group due to injury.
David Harrell - Pokes
I would take Wisconsin for Strength and Conditioning.