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Is Emmitt's rushing record still in jeopardy?

Discussion in 'History Zone' started by TruBlueCowboy, Jan 4, 2006.

  1. TruBlueCowboy

    TruBlueCowboy New Member

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    There was talk of Curtis Martin breaking Emmitt's record after Martin had the most yards ever for a running back his age in 2004, but everything I read or watch in 2005, now has Curtis Martin with retirement or reduced duties.

    Looking at some of the vets who can compete with Emmitt:

    EMMITT 18,355

    Curtis Martin 14,101.... After this season, I can't see Martin having three 1,300 yard seasons in a row, which is what he will need MINIMUM to beat Emmitt.

    Jerome Bettis 13,662.... Probably retired next year.

    Marshall Faulk 12,279.... Probably retiring soon.

    Corey Dillon 10,429.... Had a slow season this year, highly doubtful he can even reach 15,000.

    Edgerrin James 9,226.... He turns 28 this year. He can have 5 seasons of 1,500 yards and he'll still be over a thousand yards away.

    Tiki Barber 8,786.... Turns 30 this year. Nope.

    Fred Taylor 8,367.... Turns 29 this year. Injury prone. Ain't gonna happen.

    Warrick Dunn 8,321.... Turns 30, already talk of Ricky Wiliams going to Falcons. Nada here.

    Priest Holmes 8,035.... Retiring next year.

    Stephen Davis 7,875.... Probably retiring.

    Shaun Alexander 7,817..... Here's an intriguing candidate. Only problem is he turns 29 this year. He has to have six seasons of comparable yards as his first six and he'll be 34, and STILL over 2,000 yards away. Very doubtful.

    Ahman Green 7,432.... Similar situation as Alexander and lost a step lately.

    LaDainian Tomlinson 7,363.... He was the favorite pick in earlier Emmitt record breaking discussions and still on a decent pace. He'll be 32 after he has 5 more seasons of approx 1400 yards a season. And he'll still only have a little under 15,000 yards.

    Ricky Williams 7,097... Too many bong hits.

    Antowain Smith 6,881.... Retiring soon.

    As far as guys who don't have over 6,000 yards yet, I'll give you someone who maybe has a chance.

    Clinton Portis 5,930..... He turns 25 in 2006. Because he started so young in the NFL, he's a big threat if he stays healthy. If he had six seasons of 1,300 yards minimum (he usually averages 1,500 yards) up til age 30, he'd be near 14,000 yards.

    Still... none of the longtimers looks like legit threats except for Edgerrin James, with only guys Portis and LT as long-term worries, but they still have to run for several, several years before they even become a threat.

    Emmitt's record is going to go down as one of the most impressive sports records ever. It's just incredible how long his body took that beating and still managed to play at such high levels.
  2. TonyS

    TonyS Well-Known Member

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    The crazy thing about Emmitt is that he could've kept going physically. He basically retired because he didn't want to move his family to another city at this point in his career.

    Behind a good O-line, Emmitt could still flash some moves and make some yards. He was incredible.
  3. Tricked

    Tricked Fascinated

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    http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/396164

    Mr Larry Johson, in my opinion, is going to be one of the best RBs in the league.. he didn't even start all year and still ended up with almost 1800 yards, he just does amazing things when he has the football in his hands, and he's only 26.. learning behind priest holmes has helped him quite a bit, he's definitely one i've got my eye on...

    but don't worry, records were meant to be broken, while emmitts record was a tremendous accomplishment, someone out there will work just as hard as he did to get to it, and will likely succeed, in time
  4. TruBlueCowboy

    TruBlueCowboy New Member

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    Agree that he's impressive, but LJ started too late. Emmitt skipped a year of college. You need at least 10 years to break this record so LJ is already well behind. Also, even if he was younger, while KC has a damn good offensive line, they have several older vets on that line, so you gotta figure his yards are going to go down soon.
  5. JohnsKey19

    JohnsKey19 Well-Known Member

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    Lengevity and health have as much to do with the all-time rushing record as the RB's greatness or talent as a runner. It's really impossible to predict who's a threat particularly when the player is so young and has so much yardage to make up, like a Portis or Tomlinson.

    An "off year" or even a few minor 4-6 week type injuries, completely normal for a RB, would essentially kill any chances of even reaching 15,000 total yards. Guys like Emmitt and Martin are exceptions. Example...Marshall Faulk just a few seasons ago appeared to be on the fast track to break the record. Due to age, injuries and other factors, he can barely get on the field now and still has 6000 yds to go.


    But I do agree with you that Portis and Tomlinson certainly are on pace to challenge Emmitt. But let's see where they are at age 30-31. How close are they then? How effective are they as runners? Are they still feature RBs getting 20-25 attempts/game? And realistically, how much gas do they have left in the tank? We won't know til we get to that point.
  6. Yeagermeister

    Yeagermeister Active Member

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    To me the only one with a shot is LT if he can stay healthy.
  7. TonyS

    TonyS Well-Known Member

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    at 33 years old next season, coming off of an injury and needing 3 more seasons of at least 1,400 yards, it doesn't look good for CMart.

    I'd love to see Emmitt hold the record for 10-15 more years, but eventually someone will pass it. All records will, one day, be broken.
  8. TruBlueCowboy

    TruBlueCowboy New Member

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    Plus, another thing is I don't think coaches really give their backs as much of a workload as they used to. A lot more coaches these days seem to be happy with a significant workload given to the backup running back, or goal line, 3rd down specialists. Emmitt played at the end of an era.
  9. juice28

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    That's the big "IF" that everyone keeps overlooking. Remember Emmitt playing through injury. I'm not sure anyone else will do the same these days. They don't make runningbacks like they used to.
  10. joseephuss

    joseephuss Well-Known Member

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    Martin looks like he won't break it. The Jets are bad and that will hamper him as well as his injuries.

    Portis is in good early position. He is very young and productive. The one thing to watch with him is long term durability. He has been taking a pounding. It may not seem to effect him now, but sometimes that stuff seems to just take a toll on a player later down the line. Earl Campbell looked great early in his career and then bam, all that punishment just caught up with him. Portis has shown a few minor signs that he won't be a 12 year or longer back in my opinion. That isn't a criticism of Portis who is a special running back. It is just amazing when any back can be productive for that many years. Only a few have done it.

    LT has shown the same kind of minor injuries that Portis has done. He also was a little older than Emmitt when he started his career.
  11. TruBlueCowboy

    TruBlueCowboy New Member

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    I think you're right on with your assessment of Portis. Could be the Skins hater in me, but he has had some injury question marks already, and he doesn't seem like the kind of guy who can stand the direct pounding year after year.
  12. aznhalf

    aznhalf New Member

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    CP depends on his speed too much to remain productive later in his career. If he loses a couple steps I don't think he has the vision or power to stay on a record pace.

    I think LT might have a shot, depending on his health and toughness.

    Also backs on winning teams have more yards, so there performance hinges on how well their teams perform. You're not running a lot when you're always playing from behind.
  13. TruBlueCowboy

    TruBlueCowboy New Member

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    That's why I think Edgerrin James is a threat. As long as Manning, Freeney, and some of the other mainstays stick around, he'll get his yards.
  14. joseephuss

    joseephuss Well-Known Member

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    What is James' contract status? How much longer will he be a Colt?
  15. TruBlueCowboy

    TruBlueCowboy New Member

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    I believe he's a free-agent this year. Another obstacle. Go Emmitt!! ;)
  16. Duane

    Duane Active Member

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    Great read TBC, reading it was a nice break between the Excel spreadsheets this morning.
  17. REDVOLUTION

    REDVOLUTION Return to Dominance

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    Yeah I really wanted Emmitt to go to 20,000 yards. He mentioned somewhere along the line.... would have been sweet - Emmitt20K
  18. Sarge

    Sarge Happy Holidays Staff Member

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    I don't know if some of Jerry Rices' records will ever be broken.
  19. TheSkaven

    TheSkaven Last Man Standing

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    Curtis Martin will retire this off-season, almost certainly. Emmitt's record is safe for at least another decade, if not more. It takes a unique back to break that record, not only a great running back but remaining injury free and playing behind a good offensive line.

    Here's hoping when that record does eventually fall, the new record holder is another Cowboy.
  20. AdamJT13

    AdamJT13 Salary Cap Analyst

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    As I've been saying for several years, the ONLY guy anywhere close to Emmitt's yardage at the same age is Clinton Portis, who is 231 yards ahead of Emmitt at the same age. Now all he has to do is stay as productive as Emmitt for as long as Emmitt did -- he's still 12,425 yards away (which is more than what Jim Brown's record was and more than Marshall Faulk's career total).

    Everyone else is WAY behind Emmitt at the same age. Tomlinson, for example, is 1,664 yards behind what Emmitt had at the same age. The chances of him breaking the record are slim to none.

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