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Is Spencer gone in a move to the 4-3?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by perrykemp, Jan 10, 2013.

  1. Clove

    Clove Shrinkage

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    No one is above being removed when you're 8-8 annually.
  2. TheSport78

    TheSport78 The Excellence of Execution

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    He's a goner.
  3. perrykemp

    perrykemp Well-Known Member

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    Because Spencer last played DE in 2006 -- 7 years ago.

    He has literally played 7000 or so snaps as a standup 3-4 OLB since then.

    I'm not sure this is like riding a bike...
  4. Nunez21

    Nunez21 Active Member

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    DE in college and in nickel in the NFL if he comes back he'll do fine. I also think he can be used as an OLB like in NY like mentioned already.
  5. perrykemp

    perrykemp Well-Known Member

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  6. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    Spencer is more like 270 but more to the point, DWare is taller and liter then Spencer so I don't fully understand why you think Ware would work but Spencer would not?
  7. perrykemp

    perrykemp Well-Known Member

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    Do I think that Spencer could probably be a OK to above average 4-3 DE. Yeah sure.

    Would I sign him to a 4 or 5 year contract extension with major guaranteed money that would put him at $10m/year only to convert him to a 4-3 DE.... no way.

    I doubt he'd even want to be converted -- often players resist these kinds of moves.
  8. Manwiththeplan

    Manwiththeplan Well-Known Member

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    I wish people would stop saying this, because it just isn't true.

    He may not be worth the amount of money he wants due to age/prior playing level.

    He may not be a good value considering how much we are paying Ware.

    And eventually time may tell that it was the correct decision to let him walk.

    But it won't be because we couldn't afford him, it will be because we chose to go in another direction.

    Adam has already alluded to the cap not being an issue this offseason, despite all the reports out there, so if we don't resign Spencer, it was a choice, not our hand being forced.
  9. gmoney112

    gmoney112 Well-Known Member

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    Is it even a question? Anthony Spencer will not be a Dallas Cowboy next year.
  10. goshan

    goshan Active Member Zone Supporter

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    I personally think Spencer is a better OLB than DE. So he is gone.
    He plays better in space and his versatility is a real strength.
    He isn't worth 10-12M as a DE.
  11. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    Adam listed Spencer as a cut so yeah, I expect that he would not be a problem.

    I think it comes down to this. We can't sign Spencer and extend Romo. That's not going to happen so I guess you probably have to pick one or the other. In Adam's breakdown, he did not include Romo's extension so far as I can tell. I think you have to look at it and ask yourself if you would want to pay 11 Million for a Run Stopping DE in a 43 or not. Somebody who is running a 34 is going to be willing to pay him to play OLB IMO. I guess We'll see.
  12. Erik_H

    Erik_H Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun. Zone Supporter

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    We are in serious cap trouble this year. There's no way we can afford to franchise him for 10.7 for one year. The only way he stays if if we sign him to a 5 yr deal to spread out the hit.
  13. CowboysYanksLakers

    CowboysYanksLakers Well-Known Member

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    Spencer will flourish in a 4-3... He's explosive and powerful off the edge with his hand in the ground.
  14. theogt

    theogt Surrealist Zone Supporter

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    What?
  15. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    Don't believe the "articles" claiming to know the Cowboys 2013 salary cap status.

    The Cowboys are always over this time of year. After they restructure and/or extend contracts the numbers will completely change.
  16. juck

    juck Well-Known Member

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    Spencer is a DE. Thats his natural position. He played that in Purdue. And played it well.
  17. Star Guard_31

    Star Guard_31 Active Member

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    Where do you get 270? The team, nfl.com, and ESPN all list him between 250-257.

    I can't speak for the OP but I agree with his point. You can cheat and shade a DT closer to help out an undersized DE. You can shift your LBs or bring up a safety to deter the offensive from running at a single undersized DE, but when you have both DEs ends that are giving up 80-90lbs to the OT in front of them manning the perimeter of your front 7 then you're asking for trouble. We would have the lightest starting DEs in the league with Ware and Spencer. We wouldn't have to worry about teams torching us through the air because they'd be running off tackle for 150 yards a game.
  18. perrykemp

    perrykemp Well-Known Member

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    2006 is calling and they want their DE back.

    :rolleyes:
  19. perrykemp

    perrykemp Well-Known Member

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    I think you can get away with Spencer OR Ware at DE but not both unless you are willing to play a wide 9 type of scheme.

    Since we know Ware isn't going anyway, that likely means Spencer is a goner.
  20. tm1119

    tm1119 Well-Known Member

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    If we're playing 4-3 his duties greatly diminish and that 10M per year gets a lot harder to hand out. Ive been a huge Spencer supporter as an OLB, but as DE I think he becomes a lot more replaceable. Let him walk and fill the gap at 1/2 the price and use some of that $ to fill other holes.

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