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Is this "search" for a 3-4-5 WR a bit of a ploy?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Big Dakota, Aug 10, 2006.

  1. Big Dakota

    Big Dakota New Member

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    I don't doubt Bill when he says he's looking for more talent at WR, he's always looking. But part of me thinks this is, to some degree, a ploy to get TO out there(which it seems to have done considering we heard 2 days ago he could be out till Monday Aug.14th) and Crayton to up his play as well. Please consider this.



    We went into last years camp with less talent and less depth than we did this year, yet we didn't do this WR search last camp. Most of us can see a #3 in Crayton. He had 272 yds and 2 tds in 6 games(on pace for 700 yds) before his injury. It took him a while to come back but in his last game he finally looked like he was back with 3 rec. and 45 tds.

    Copper is a good STs player and on top of that we drafted Green(not that he's a great WR prospect, but he will take a spot if he can return). I mean with TO, TG, Crayton, Copper, Merritt, Tolver, Rector, Austin, and Hurd(and now this Ward kid) we have 10 WRs in camp for what? 5 spots? Not to mention we are now a full fledged 2 TE O and will keep 4 on the active roster and probably 1 on the PS.

    Either Crayton and Copper are failing their 3 year test, or this something Bill has cooked up to scare some people.
  2. Prancer

    Prancer Member

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    Merritt was released on July 31st.
  3. Hiero

    Hiero New Member

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    yes because everything Parcells does is about TO. TO and Glenn are both getting up in age, and Glenn has had injury issues in the past. Crayton was hurt for a lot of last year. But im sure its just a ploy to push TO, as if he needed to really be pushed.
  4. JsnSA

    JsnSA Member

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    More likely TO's recent injury has got Bill thinking about going through the season if TO gets hurt.

    If we were to lose him..what, we have Glenn, Crayton, and who? Hurd has been the next best from what we hear and he has no real experience.

    We would be kind of screwed if that were to happen...so he probably wants to see if we can aquire at least one more experienced player just in case the worst occurs...TO gets hurt.

    Well I guess the worst is that TO goes insane and the Boys have to cut him...but it will amount to the same thing.
  5. Big Dakota

    Big Dakota New Member

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    So what would have happened last year if we lost Key?? Nothing was done in that case. Bill just let it ride.
  6. superpunk

    superpunk Benched

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    You missed the part where he said "TO's injury" has Bill wondering about that.
  7. MONT17

    MONT17 New Member

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    I'm glad they r looking at WR... last year it was obvious we needed Peerless Price to play more but BILL didnt like him for some reason! I think WR is as much as a reason as we have too much talent in other areas!


    that being said Cowboy fans think every backup WR could start for other teams... guys like Copper are bums, he may be good on teams in practice but how do u simulate coverage in practice anyway... he did nothing in the games except be an eye sore...

    I think Skyler is a bust... everyone of BILL PR guys played other positions even Phil McKonkey caught some balls! Like most fans, Crayton thinks he is Steve Largent, we will find out if he can be a 2 this weekend!


    all the other WRs are just bums with an opportunity!
  8. Galian Beast

    Galian Beast Well-Known Member

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    Parcells said that we were going to have to address WR soon. And this was before T.O. and Glenn had any sort of health problems. They're aware of their age.

    And as Parcells has said before, he is happy with Crayton's ability (as it seems to have returned to what he is doing from last year), but he isn't putting all of his eggs in one basket. He isn't sure of what Crayton really is. And you really have to have a good 3rd receiver who you wouldn't even mind being a starter. Crayton is good, but I'd hardly call him a starter, just a 3rd receiver at this point. I see a difference between a #3 receiver, and a 3rd receiver... All 3 receivers should be capable of starting at the 1st spot. Doesn't really make them a #1 receiver, but they should be capable of pulling that load. Think Galloway/Johnson, Glenn, Bryant.

    Crayton is coming along, but I think Parcells sees him as a 2nd or 3rd for the long haul. We would do well to bring some more talent in right now. Especially if we plan to draft a receiver next year. We can build this receiving corps around youth slowly, but surely. Neither T.O. or Glenn should be done next year, but we still need the talent improved on our bench. Just look at our linebacker corps or defensive end group... almost everyone there I would be ok with playing in case of an injury. If T.O. and Glenn were to go down... our offense would stall.

    If we were to get Donte Stallworth, Mike Williams, or Charles Rogers, I'd have a little more faith in our ability to work on offense. Williams is young and inexperienced so I don't know how helpful he would actually be. But I seriously think Stallworth would be the perfect third guy.

    Owens - Glenn - Stallworth - Crayton - Hurd

    Thats pretty lights out to me. It would also help develop Henson and Romo. Actually playing with some talent.

    Stallworth is only 25/26, so he could easily enter the next era as the #1 receiver. And we could still draft someone along the lines. But wouldnt be forced to do it next year.

    I'd probably say a linebacker and a 3rd or 4th round draft pick for Stallworth would be worth it. Depending on the linebacker. Maybe like Singleton and a 4th.
  9. CrazyCowboy

    CrazyCowboy Well-Known Member

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    We should take at look at Leslie from Den if the price is not too steep
  10. 4lifecowboy

    4lifecowboy Active Member

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    I believe Price was brought in for that role until Crayton surpassed him.
  11. 4lifecowboy

    4lifecowboy Active Member

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    I'm almost positive we aren't looking for a "big" name reciever, probably some one who can play special teams, return punts and kick-offs are more in line, at least for now. That is until pre season shakes down. I think the fact that Hurd is already learning all the WR positions speaks volumes for this kids work ethic and i can't wait to see him Saturday against live competion.I thought he would have to have a role on ST to make it, but he is beginning to make me wonder if we are not looking for a reciever for that ST role, not a potential #1.
  12. Galian Beast

    Galian Beast Well-Known Member

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    We're not going to sign a guy just for special teams. If that were the case, they would give the job to Green.

    Parcells has said time and time again he still isn't set on the 3rd receiver position. And none of those guys are really big names. Their recognizable names, but all of them are on the outs on their respective teams.

    Its like saying how could we get Colombo a 1st round tackle, or how could buffalo let go of mike williams another first round tackle. Some of these guys simply get released, and others can be traded for for fairly little value.
  13. Cowboy Bill Watts

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    why does donte stallworth keep coming up in these WR trade threads? is NO unhappy with him? if so, why do we want him? if not, why would they trade him?
  14. Galian Beast

    Galian Beast Well-Known Member

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    Why does anyone getting traded then?

    He has been inconsistent with the Saints, and is struggling to get his position down in their offense. He also has lingering groin problem.

    He also clashed a bit with Payton.

    No one is saying trade a first rounder for him. There are obvious reasons why we wouldn't want him. If he is struggling with the Saints offense which I believe is now the same as our offense, what is to say he wouldn't struggle here. Or if he had problems with Payton, why wouldn't he have problems for Parcells, who would have to be an even larger task master.

    I'd say he would be an upgrade for singleton and a 4th round draft pick. (That is like Singleton and Skyler Green... neither player should make this team).
  15. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    Who knows if it is a ploy by bill.

    Sometimes it is hard to understand what the mind of a debil is thinking.

    And make no mistake...

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    That foozeball and Coach Tuna Bill is the DEBIL!!!
  16. FLcowboy

    FLcowboy Hopeful this is the year Zone Supporter

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    Just how comfortable are you with Crayton and Copper filling in for an injured TG or TO? Niether player could carry the day for the playoff hopeful Cowboys.
  17. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    Myself I feel pretty good about Crayton. Copper on the other hand I have yet to see anything that makes me feel he will become a starting WR in this league
  18. Sandyf

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    If we are truly looking for a WR then the first thing is to look at where we are deep and what team or teams have a need at those positions and are also deep at the WR position.

    It appears we are deep at LB but not sure anywhere else is really "deep".

    Looking at some teams that are deep at WR and may need a LB would be Tampa Bay where Michael Clayton seems to be at the 3 or 4 spot since Galloway is the 1, Boston is coming on as a 2 or 3 and they drafted Stovall who appears to be headed as a 2. They also have Larry Brackins who was a highly touted undrafted WR last year. Big and very fast.

    It wouldn't surprise me to see Singleton traded to Tampa since he knows that defense and they need help and experience at LB for Brackins or possibly Clayton although I would think it would cost us more than Singleton for Clayton.
  19. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    I must have missed something.

    Boston came in off the street and is now their number two? Is this correct?
  20. Sam I Am

    Sam I Am Unfriendly and Aloof!

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    I don't think it's a ploy of any type. TO wouldn't lose his job if the Cowboys picked up Chad Johnson and Randy Moss, because he is the biggest and strongest receiver in the league and is just as fast as any other WR in the league.

    It does worry me that we have Crayton as a 3rd WR and we hear these great things out of Hurd and Jamaica Rector yet we are still looking for more WRs. If Hurd and Rector were the 4th and 5th WRs, does it matter that they are still a little green? We hear great things, but they arn't even good enough to be 4th and 5th? That is a bit thought provoking...

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