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J.Manziel in AT&T Stadium

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by Cowboy Brian, Apr 6, 2014.

  1. Aikmaniac

    Aikmaniac Well-Known Member

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    Love the kid, but hope we don't take him. Would rather have Aaron Murray later as a potential Romo successor.

    I agree with you. If he's there, the marketability and public attention is too much for Jerry to ignore.
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  2. tideh20heel

    tideh20heel Active Member

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    Tony did not take great care of his body. His body is breaking down. Those are facts. He has been a great player for us and received a ton of unfair criticism but people expecting a guy with a contract of that magnitude to be well conditioned is not one of them.
  3. Dhragon

    Dhragon Deadly Claws of Death

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    I totally agree. If Jerry & company truly believe JF can become a franchise QB and he falls to them at #16, they would be fools NOT to draft him. While a first round defensive player would be great, he would NOT get us anywhere near a Superbowl anytime soon anyway. JF might if he becomes what I think he'll become ( a top 5 QB ) in a few years.

    Sure JF might flop, but that is a risk inherent for ALL QBs drafted anyway. Better odds than drafting one in late rounds. And there is no guarantee if we wait until Romo is completely shot ( like we did with Aikman ) and we get a high draft pick the following year, that there will be as good a QB as JF in that particular draft. Knowing our luck lately, it would be the all time historically weakest QB draft ever.

    Point is moot if Manziel is gone by our pick anyway ( which I think he will be ). I'm still hoping for Donald myself, but if the choice is JF, I would still be excited.
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  4. tideh20heel

    tideh20heel Active Member

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    If the scouts view him as a fran
  5. ufcrules1

    ufcrules1 Well-Known Member

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    Who knows.. I think they are smart enough to realize Romo won't be around much longer. Even Aikman said the back issues are what ended his career and once they start it could be the beginning of the end. Romo could go down at any time and then what do you have on offense? If you realize your team is a few years out from truly having a chance to go anywhere, then there is no major hurry to rebuild the defense necessarily, your focus is just on rebuilding the whole team. If you have a chance to grab a franchise level QB without giving up too much, you go for it.
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  6. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    any QB could go down and I don't know if Dallas thinks they are years away from competing, I know that is the mindset of some fans but not nessisarily shared by the Cowboys. I'm not opposed to getting a QB but frankly I don't care much for the crop that is projected to go in rd 1. I would rather take a guy like Arron Murray mid rds than to invest in bridgwater or Johnny Football. In my view while they are getting the hype they are not clear cut top QB prospect like Andrew Luck was.
  7. dallasdave

    dallasdave Well-Known Member

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    Very well said, stay thirsty my friend.
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  8. ufcrules1

    ufcrules1 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, well Andrew Luck is a once in a decade or decades QB. Yes, any QB can go down but Romo is 34 years old and has had back problems, so it is more likely he could go down. If the front office really believes we have a chance at going to the super bowl, they are extremely delusional, as are any fans who believe that. The truth is, we need to drastically improve all over the place with this team. That includes the offense, the defensive line, the secondary, etc.
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  9. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    I think OL does need help I don't think there is anything wrong WR, RB or TE and no I don't think there is anything wrong with Romo. Manning is older than him coming off neck surgery and Denver went out and got him. Look I know for you anything to get Romo out is what you want but offense OL I think could use more but in terms of weapons, Dallas has them. Defense on the other hand is in bad shape and it is an area Dallas has to address. Again in terms of Frnachise QB in the draft I don't think there are any in the 1st rd that is that damn good. I would just as soon take a chance with Murray than over hype QB that do not impress outside of some A&M fans and a few others around here.
  10. dallasdave

    dallasdave Well-Known Member

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    Right, if you get a player to help the team in the long run, you do it. That means QB, WR, or RB. Does not have to be defense.
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  11. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    Great lets get another TE. lol
  12. dallasdave

    dallasdave Well-Known Member

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    You don't think there is anything w
    No that's get MIKE EVANS !!!!!!!!!!!!!
  13. Fredd

    Fredd Well-Known Member

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    it humors me when people talk about tony and his back issues and that he doesn't take care of himself....and yet, many of those same people want to bring in Manziel to take us to the superbowl? you know that he likes to move around and stay out of the poicket, right? you know that he will/may sustain injury as a result, right? you want to invest a #1 pick on a guy that when he actually gets in a game could go out quickly? too risky for me....
  14. ufcrules1

    ufcrules1 Well-Known Member

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    You see, this is the problem with you, you are so obsessed with Romo you can't even think straight and you always have to make the topic about him.

    I'm looking at this situation without emotions involved. I realize we have holes all over the place and if we have the opportunity to grab a franchise level QB who falls to us at 16 we should take him. Franchise QB's don't grow on trees. Romo isn't going to last forever, he is at the end of his career now. We have to think to the future.

    Say we get a solid guy on the defensive line, is that going to help us go to the super bowl this year? No? Then we are not forced to go defensive line then.
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  15. dallasdave

    dallasdave Well-Known Member

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    Plenty of holes to fill, does not have to be DL. I told doomsday I hope we pick MIKE EVANS:D
  16. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    Not looking for shiny toys, Evans is good Dallas has very good WR we do not have the foundation to build on. You can take Matt Millen solution I don't agree with it. Top teams did not load up at WR they loaded up where is counts.
  17. Doomsday101

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    No I do like Romo and also willing to take a QB just not impressed with QB that are likely to go in rd 1 so why would I want to take a QB in rd 1 that I don't care for? How the hell does that make any sense. Using the word franchise does not make Manziel or Bridgewater a franchise QB is just means people bought the hype and will waste a 1st rd pick on them.
  18. dallasdave

    dallasdave Well-Known Member

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    I'm NOT looking for shiny toys either, I'm hoping for players who can build a Super Bowl championship team for the future. That means players that make big plays and win games. I'm not taking the Matt Millen solution, I want the Super Bowl winning solution. YOU DO LIKE WINNING SUPER BOWLS DON'T YOU ????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  19. ufcrules1

    ufcrules1 Well-Known Member

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    Ok, I got ya. It's of your opinion that Manziel is not a franchise level QB. I personally think he is going to be and that is why I say he would be a solid pick at 16. If you thought he was a franchise level QB, would you take him at 16, if Donald was sitting there?
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  20. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    Me too. Seattle build off the foundation they got defensive players and OL player. QB a 3rd rd pick they did not sit there taking WR, Tate was the highest pick with a 2nd again they built off a foundation where games are won an loss not on some fricken WR when Dallas already has a top WR, that is just stupid

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