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Jason Garrett is least of cowboys problems

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Wood, Nov 12, 2013.

  1. dupree89

    dupree89 Well-Known Member

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    very true. And an accurate observation.
  2. dupree89

    dupree89 Well-Known Member

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    I didnt want to start a new post as I know some get fed up with what they consider to be the same topics over and over again......so since this is a 'problems' post, I will add my thinking here.

    I have been paying particular attention the past few days to what different people here think the some of the problems are. Things like:

    Jerry the owner
    Jerry the GM
    Garrett
    playcalling
    the defense
    hiring an old man to run the defense
    poor drafts
    injuries
    salary cap problems
    no running game
    stale offense
    no home field advantage
    no depth
    a few say the QB

    Those are some of the problems according to people here. Now lets remove injuries as its tough to hold anyone accountable for players getting hurt. And lets remove the QB as I dont think many really feel he is at the center of the problems. But lets say there is at least SOME validity to each of the other problems. Doesnt matter the biggest problem or where they all rank....doesnt this just show that there are problems on so many levels with this team? Its like everywhere you turn, there is another weakness. Maybe because we "still are in first place" we try to sweep some of the issues under the rug. But the problems arent going away and they dont seem to be getting resolved.
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  3. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    It is a fear that nothing will be done. The chances are that things will not change much within the next year and the small changes that happen will not solve the long term problems. I have learned to expect little from Jerry when it comes to making good football decisions. By expecting little, I am rarely disappointed.
  4. dexternjack

    dexternjack World Traveler Zone Supporter

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    Did I hear little Jerry???
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  5. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    You have a good point about Callahan escaping the heat. His oline unit broke records for the lowest rushing yards for the team last year and he got promoted. He doesn't even get heat from within the organization. It doesn't make sense.
  6. AtomicDog

    AtomicDog Member

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    this
  7. 17yearsandcounting

    17yearsandcounting Benched

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    I love the Garrett Parrot line of thinking

    "Jerry is the problem, he made a huge mess, makes bad decisions, and is a terrible GM"

    Well diddnt that terrible GM hire Jason Garrett?

    "Well that was a good decision"
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  8. dupree89

    dupree89 Well-Known Member

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    Garrett sure does have his share of supporters through this process.
  9. Blackspider214

    Blackspider214 Well-Known Member

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    How many other teams are ran like ours? Where the owner makes football decisions that decide the product on the field. I'm going to guess none. So yes, the head coach is always a problem on a bad team. You are right. And Garrett is not a good head coach. Problem is, Jerry will never hire anyone to let take control of the team. He did once with Parcells and that did not last that long. Jerry wanted control back and Parcells had enough.

    Problem is, this team is so far in trouble with salary cap issues and bad contracts and no depth that it will be hard for any coach to come in here and make a real change. When Wade turned things around, we had talent here across the board. It's much different now. There is no hope for this thing. We are fed a bunch of bull every single year about how it's going to be different but it's not. We are mediocre. And that is all we can hope for. Those drafts from 2006-2010 were just abysmal. That is why we have no depth. Not one single player from the 2009 draft is here. So instead of drafting to make our team stronger, we are drafting to make up for past mistakes. And it's an endless cycle.

    It's so bad this year that we may not even win the division when the East is probably the worst it has ever been.
  10. dupree89

    dupree89 Well-Known Member

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    You are right. And let me say this...if somehow the NYG win this division after being 0-6 every single member of the Cowboys organization should be embarrassed. Every player. Every coach. And the GM of course. This would be an absolute disgrace- yet it is very possible.

    This is the only scenario where I could see the entire coaching staff gone:
    Cowboys lose the rest of their games and the NYG win the East after being 0-6. Now that right there would have to push Jerry over the edge.
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  11. kramskoi

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    The big problem with your analysis is that Garrett has YET to do what both Phillips and Parcells did twice. He has finished no better than third in the division since becoming head coach. Meanwhile the running game has been marginalized to the point of near non-existence...by choice it seems. The entire offensive line (minus Waters) has been rebuilt and still the offense continues its penchant for self-immolation. Garrett being no worse than Parcells and Phillips is almost laughable to me, especially after Sunday night.
  12. kramskoi

    kramskoi Well-Known Member

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    And THAT's saying something my friend. I'll let you tell it!
  13. 17yearsandcounting

    17yearsandcounting Benched

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    Would it kill one of these Garrett Fanbois to admit that they may be wrong?

    Comparing Garrett to Parcells is down right dishonest and I down right refuse to put up with this revisionist apologist NONSENSE.

    Good lord, Parcells had to start DREW HENSON in a game once.
  14. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    As he should. The real problems with the team are well documented, and they're elsewhere. JG *is* running out of runway for getting those problems addressed, though. It gets harder to make the case that improvements take time when, over time, things don't improve. At some point first the media and then the fans, and then the players and the front office will turn, and once that happens, it's awfully hard to turn things back.
  15. Sarge

    Sarge Red, White and Brew... Staff Member

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    There are multiple problems with this team and Garrett is one of them.
  16. IrishAnto

    IrishAnto Well-Known Member

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    There’s no debate on who is worse for this Franchise.

    Garrett got here as a coach (OC) in Jan 2007, we’ve had nearly 19 years of crap since Jan 95.

    You blaming Garrett for the first 13 years of this mess?
  17. IrishAnto

    IrishAnto Well-Known Member

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    Hit the nail on the head!
  18. IrishAnto

    IrishAnto Well-Known Member

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    You forgot that Bellichek went 11-5 with Matt Cassel at the helm.

    That guy is a dam good coach.

    Does Brady help? Sure.

    Did Staubach help Landry or Aikman help Johnson?
  19. AKATheRake

    AKATheRake Well-Known Member

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    That's why u have to consistently draft well, then develop those players into a viable system.

    Jerry and Jason still problem number 1 and 2.

    Batman and Robin
  20. Ren

    Ren Well-Known Member

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    Blaming the coach gives people the illusion that this is a better team then it really is and the hope of a quick turn around when Garrett is gone. Is Garrett a good coach? sure doesn't look like it but on the list of things wrong with this team he's far from the biggest problem.

    When you play a game in the NFL with the likes of Heath starting you're in trouble regardless of who your coach is
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