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Jason Garrett is least of cowboys problems

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Wood, Nov 12, 2013.

  1. T-RO

    T-RO Well-Known Member

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    I'd like to hear you round out your argument. Maybe I don't understand the point you are trying to make.

    --The Colts were lucky enough to suck really bad in two crucial seasons: the first landed them Payton Manning. The second horrible season landed them Luck.

    --The Niners were horrible for years and stockpiled talent. Now they reap the results.

    --Same with the Seahawks. They had some down years that helped them load up

    I could continue with countless examples of where the NFL's draft and salary cap assist the downtrodden teams to rise to the top in a 2-3 year span.
  2. OhSnap

    OhSnap Well-Known Member

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    You need to take your blinders off.
  3. waving monkey

    waving monkey Well-Known Member

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    utter silliness
  4. Coy

    Coy Well-Known Member

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    I think you are making the argument for him, the 3 you mentioned had one thing in common , NEW HC and good ones by the way, you can turn it around quickly with a good HC and enough talent, we've seen that many times. The Cowboys do have enough talent but obviously they don't have a good HC.
  5. OhSnap

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    Jerry makes problems worse by drawing the spotlight and has certainly set the team back on many ocaisions but he's not the reason the Saints blew out the Cowboys.
  6. Dodger12

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    Yes, we've got to be patient while JG rebuilds this team. Yes, the rebuilding project has been very impressive indeed. Have you bought your Morris Claiborne jersey yet?
  7. T-RO

    T-RO Well-Known Member

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    You won't get any experts to agree with you re. the talent on this squad. It's simply not there. Well-below league average.

    And as per turning it around: You can't have an elite team without an elite quarterback. It's true that sometimes you can find those guys later, and a couple times a decade they go undrafted. But generally top franchise QBs are found in the top 5 of the draft.
  8. Dodger12

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    The Colts got lucky with Manning and Luck, no doubt about it. They were both the most NFL ready QB's to come out in years and the Colts got them both. But I don't know why you underestimate the impact of Harbaugh and Carroll. The Seahawks and Niners drafted well, including finding their franchise QB's in the third round (Wilson) and second round (Kapernick). Meanwhile, we take Tyrone Crawford and trade away our draft picks for guys like Claiborne and Roy Williams the WR. Please.......the NFL teams don't have the luxury of stockpiling talent anymore. That's a fantasy in today's NFL and free agency. Teams didn't just miraculously get better after years of being down because that's the way of the NFL or they kept drafting high. That's just you and others hoping that our turn is coming but it's been coming for a;most 20 years. Hope and playing the odds are all we have left.
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  9. Dodger12

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    And lets not forget another second round tight end that doesn't see the field. Yes, we're definitely rebuilding and stockpiling talent, just like the 9ers and Seahawks.
  10. OhSnap

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    Being patient would be giving him a 5th year. Writing him off half way through the 3rd year is the opposite.
  11. birdwells1

    birdwells1 Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Uh, it's been 3 years.
  12. Dodger12

    Dodger12 Well-Known Member

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    If I saw anything after 3 years that would warrant him staying, I'd be more patient. I've seen enough of him wasting away Romo's prime years and figuring out how to make Dez disappear in his offense. No thanks.
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  13. Clove

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    Excellent post from the OP. The only part I disagree on is the fact that you excluded Garrett from the equation. I agree with Romo and Jerry, but Jerry is here, and Romo puts ***** in the seats but Garrett doesn't, therefore, Garrett is gone.
  14. Clove

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    8-8 gives Jones hope, and also homers hope. 1-15 or 3-13 puts a mirror right in front of you. No doubt things need to change. Thus, you stop wasting time with people you THINK can help you get where you want, and start trying to build a winner. 1-15 is where I'd rather be, and I don't care who thinks I'm not a fan, I've put up with this crap for too long and I won't lay down as a fan and keep taking it from Jerry's whip. So yeah, this year, I hope we stink it up and force change.
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  15. OhSnap

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    Using Dez only having 2 targets in this one game is pretty weak. He's had double digit targets in 4 of the 10 games and averages 9 targets a game even with the last game figured in. It just shows how desperate you are to cling on to any little thing that sounds like ammo to use against JG.
  16. OhSnap

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    Uh no it hasn't the roster didn't start getting churned till 011.
  17. rrkr3298

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    Garrett is just a symptom of of the bigger virus
  18. Dodger12

    Dodger12 Well-Known Member

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    JG's inability to maximize his weapons in this offense is only a piece of a much larger problem. It's inexcusable that he can't figure out a way to put Dez in motion and give him a chance to beat the double team in a game he knows he needs to score and score often if he has any chance to win, especially with this defense. He's not building this team in any way, shape or form and add to that he's been a horrible game day coach for reasons that have been mentioned on this board for years. I don't see the need to give him 2 more years as the HC of this team when he's shown nothing to warrant it.
  19. Coy

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    On the contrary, I believe most experts would agree with me, this is a mediocre team and does not have mediocre talent, you can say that about Tampa Bay or Tennesse but not about the Cowboys.
    We obviously don't have the best talent but please tell me we aren't on par with teams like the Chiefs, Panthers, Giants, Redskins, Bears, Lions, Bengals, Colts, Texans, Falcons etc.. Those teams have done better than us this past few years (including 2013). Talent may not be the best but it is not an excuse to be a constabt mediocre team.

    And about elite QB's, what do you think about Alex Smith? Jay Cuter? Matt Schaub? Andy Dalton? Are they Better than Romo? NO, but they've had better coaching around them and that's why they've been more succesfull lately. IMO Romo should be the least of our concerns although I admit he could and should be playing better.
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  20. Beast_from_East

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    Wade says "what the hell".................................2 division titles and a playoff victory in 3.5 seasons before being fired................Where was the 5 yr plan for Wade?


    Yet Jason "I cant beat anybody over 500" Garrett gets 5 yrs.....................HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA......................Hypocrisy at its finest.
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