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Jerry Jones < Daniel Snyder

Discussion in 'Fantasy Sports Zone' started by john van brocklin, Oct 12, 2010.

  1. Hostile

    Hostile Peace Zone Supporter

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    Outstanding. And now if John will accept my invitation here we can have a nice day to get rid of all this pent up frustration.
  2. joseephuss

    joseephuss Well-Known Member

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    I ain't got a problem butchering the English language. I answer to no queen. The last line is an easy set up.
  3. john van brocklin

    john van brocklin Captain Comeback

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    Hi Hos, I am at work posting between work, so my reply will be limited.
    My reaction is not bitterness , nor a 1 game reaction. I believe that Danny finally realized the error of his ways and hired a GM and real headcoach. Wither he will keep his hands off long term remains to be seen.

    I gave Jerry credit where it was due ,drafting , resigning vets , but I believe as GM he dropped the ball , most importantly in retaining Wade after the Philly debacle 44 to 6, 2 seasons ago.

    He further dropped the ball by not seriously retooling the offensive line after it was exposed last season in Minny.

    I would just like to see a quality GM and headcoach hired.

    I fear that this team will never go anywhere of significance until then.

    If we disagree on this , that's OK.

    We are all friends and fellow Cowboy fans here.
  4. Jarv

    Jarv Loud pipes saves lives.

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    I agree 100% with the bolded. Snyder did a good job doing that and I wish Jerry would do the same.
  5. john van brocklin

    john van brocklin Captain Comeback

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    Thanks Jarv ! I am getting beat up pretty good here ! :rolleyes:
  6. Hostile

    Hostile Peace Zone Supporter

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    Like I said, 3-2 does not mean he gets it. Is Bruce Allen an improvement over Vinny Cerato? Of course it is. Is he an elite GM? There is where you lose me. No.

    I will take the combined contributions of Tm Ciskowshi and Stephen Jones over him any day. Please tell me the Miles Austin that Bruce and his staff have found. I don't even need to bring up our drafts in recent years vs. his. But I can. I will take our 2010 Draft over almost Bruce's entire career.

    He is a good football man and his Dad was one of the greats, but he's not all that and a bag of chips. He's certainly no Ozzie Newsome who operates right in Danny's back yard.

    I am a Mike Shanahan fan, but let's be real truthful here. He hasn't done anything since a guy wearing #7 retired. I felt he could do that with Romo. I like McNabb, but I don't see it being the same. I think the Redskins have an outside shot at the playoffs, but they have a lot to prove still. Did you see the Rams own them?

    Now let's talk about the censorship of fan discontent in Washington last year. I do not consider that evidence of anything but an outrage. I hate the Redskins, but I actually pitied their fans last year.

    Albert Haynesworth. How's that contract looking to you?

    The Cowboys have won more games in the Snyder era than the Redskins and that despite one stretch being our worst 3 season stretch in our History.

    Suddenly Danny is better? Nope, and only a bitter person will agree with you. Bitterness = blindness in this case.
  7. BehindEnemyLinez

    BehindEnemyLinez Optimist Prime

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    A couple of questions, Mr van. Say JJ relinquishes control of the day-to-day ops to Stephen, how much turnover do you honestly expect? Will SJ sign a GM or will he try to fill his dad's shoes? And if he did name himself GM/ President how would u feel about it? If your ok with it, what makes SJ more of a "football guy" than his dad?
  8. john van brocklin

    john van brocklin Captain Comeback

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    Thanks Hos, I appreciate your response.

    Jerry has done some positive things , no doubt, but until he at the minimum hires a quality head coach , I see us never having consistant success.

    By the way , why was thread moved ? Thanks, John

    PS , I am not bitter, just disappointed in the direction this season has taken,

    I think most Cowboy fans feel the same way.
  9. Hostile

    Hostile Peace Zone Supporter

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    I didn't move it so I can't answer that. I am not a Wade fan, but he is a quality HC. There an awfully thin line between bitterness and disappointment.
  10. john van brocklin

    john van brocklin Captain Comeback

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    Wade is an excellent Def Cood and possibly a good headcoach.

    I have always felt the great headcoachs are good at both the x and o's as well as be able to motivate the team, and have them prepared to play.

    Just my 2 cents , thanks for your opinions.
  11. zrinkill

    zrinkill Diamond surrounded by trash

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    :lmao2:

    Moved right were it belongs ....
  12. john van brocklin

    john van brocklin Captain Comeback

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    Zrinkill,

    I dont know if you will see this post , but i wanted to thank you for putting things on perspective , by sharing with the Board about your sister's passing.

    My thoughts and prayers are extended on behalf of you and your family.
  13. dbair1967

    dbair1967 Arch Defender

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    painfully stupid post of the week...congrats
  14. john van brocklin

    john van brocklin Captain Comeback

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    Only painful because it's true !

    It's a shame you only posted an insult and not why you felt I was wrong.

    I usally respect and appreciate your well thought out post on this forum.

    I am disappointed in you sir , shame on you ! Your better than that ! :(
  15. Hostile

    Hostile Peace Zone Supporter

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    Jones and Snyder, a side by side comparison for only the years both have been in the NFL.

    1999

    Cowboys, 8-8, wildcard team
    Redskins, 10-6, NFC East Champs

    2000

    Cowboys, 5-11
    Redskins, 8-8

    2001

    Cowboys, 5-11, dead last in the NFCE
    Redskins, 8-8

    2002

    Cowboys, 5-11, dead last in the NFCE
    Redskins, 7-9

    2003

    Cowboys, 10-6, wildcard team
    Redskins, 5-11

    2004

    Cowboys, 6-10
    Redskins, 6-10, dead last in the NFCE

    2005

    Cowboys, 9-7
    Redskins, 10-6, wildcard team

    2006

    Cowboys, 9-7, wildcard team
    Redskins, 5-11, dead last in the NFCE

    2007

    Cowboys, 13-3, NFC East Champs
    Redskins, 9-7 wildcard team

    2008

    Cowboys, 9-7
    Redskins, 8-8, dead last in the NFCE

    2009

    Cowboys, 11-5, NFC East Champs
    Redskins, 4-12, dead last in the NFCE


    Tally sheet.

    Jones & the Cowboys, 2 NFC East Championships, 3 wildcard teams.
    Snyder & the Redskins, 1 NFC East Championship, 2 wildcard teams.

    Jones & the Cowboys...2 times dead last in the NFCE.
    Snyder & the Redskins...4 times dead last in the NFCE.

    Jones & the Cowboys...90 wins.
    Snyder & the Redskins...80 wins.

    Head to head since 1999...16-7 in favor of the Cowboys.








    How is Snyder > Jones?

    Stadium?

    Team value?

    Nope and nope.



    I left out Jerry's best years and included the worst 3 year span in our History and Snyder still can't measure up.


    Make no mistake about it, I do think the Redskins will turn around. But no way is Snyder better than Jerry. Jerry played college football on a National Champion. Danny collected football cards.


    It isn't even close.
  16. john van brocklin

    john van brocklin Captain Comeback

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    Hos, Danny is only better in that he has realized that most businessmen dont run Football Franchises very well , and hired a respected football man and a very good head coach. That's my opinion, it's not life or death my friend !

    By the way, where did this thread get moved to ?
    I don't see it anywhere else , and its getting buried, was that the intent ?

    I hope we are not practicing censorship here ?

    I thought it was dispictable when Synder censored his fans last year....
  17. Hostile

    Hostile Peace Zone Supporter

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    It is in the Fantasy Football Zone, but I did not move it so I can't answer why it was.

    Until Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan pay off they are nothing but another Joe Gibbs or Bill Parcells move. No one is so good that their mere name causes fear.
  18. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    It got moved to FF zone, because that where it belongs. Snyder > Jones. Sheesh.
  19. Christiann

    Christiann Member

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    Oh..yeah your delusional.
  20. zrinkill

    zrinkill Diamond surrounded by trash

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    Thank you.

    I know you think we are being Harsh.

    But saying Danny Boy is better than Jerry is just silly if you look at their resume.

    Jerry Jones (21 years)
    3 Superbowl Championships
    3 NFC Championships
    8 NFC East Championships
    13 winning seasons
    12 playoff seasons
    13 playoff wins

    Danny Snyder (11 years)
    0 Superbowl Championships
    0 NFC Championships
    1 NFC East Championships
    3 winning seasons
    3 playoff seasons
    2 playoff wins

    Sorry ..... but Danny is the worst owner in the league.

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