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JFK Assassination...Your Honest Thoughts

Discussion in 'Off-topic Zone' started by Hostile, Mar 22, 2011.

  1. blindzebra

    blindzebra Well-Known Member

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    Again show proof. Eye witness testimony is by far in away the weakest form of evidence because people under stress do not get things right. So show us something to corroborate the testimony.

    And you did have a quote of one doctor who described it correctly.
  2. Teren_Kanan

    Teren_Kanan Well-Known Member

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    Penn and Teller did a good segment on this on one of their Bull**** episodes.

    There is nothing about 1 shooter that doesn't make sense.
  3. Aikmaniac

    Aikmaniac Well-Known Member

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    Over-exaggerating a bit there.
  4. Hostile

    Hostile Peace Zone Supporter

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    If there was an exit wound on the back left of his head there would be spray just like in the front. Further, this spray would have been all over Jackie. The blood you see on her mostly is the skirt area where JFK slumped over into her lap and died. The blood was all down her leg. She washed splatters off her face, but her face would have been covered .

    No shot came from the knoll. If one did it did not hit President Kennedy. No one can recreate a shot from anywhere that will do to the skull what the bullet that killed Kennedy did except from somewhere behind him.

    It cannot be done.
  5. Hostile

    Hostile Peace Zone Supporter

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    This is James Altgen's famous photo. Note in looking at the President that his hands are up at his throat having just been hit by the 2nd bullet.

    Which way are the Secret Service men looking? Which way are the crowd looking?

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  6. blindzebra

    blindzebra Well-Known Member

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    Deaf ears Hos.
  7. ConcordCowboy

    ConcordCowboy Mr. Buckeye

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  8. Hostile

    Hostile Peace Zone Supporter

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    I know.

    I have kept an open mind.

    I have always said it is possible that there was a conspiracy and that is the reason why Oswald is dead. I'm open to hearing that stuff.

    The conspiracy theories on this event are the wackiest I have ever heard. I am surprised no one brought up the theory of Oswald being in the Altgens photo. I am surprised no one brought up the theory that the driver shot him.

    There was one about the Secret Service men giving signals and if you watch that film someone is absolutely convinced of that. Yet I showed that was of the Limo leaving Love Field, not turning the wrong direction onto Elm.

    I expected some finger pointing. I expected it at Johnson. I expected it at the mob. I expected it at Russia, Cuba, and I expected theories about the grassy knoll. But I wanted this finger pointing and these theories to be compelling. These aren't.

    But the fact is they didn't have photoshop in 1963. The photos don't lie. The x-rays don't lie. The film doesn't lie. Geometry doesn't lie. Ballistics don't lie. Forensics don't lie.


    We can't even agree why Jackie was on the trunk. The woman herself says she has no memory of climbing out there but we are supposed to believe she had a reason for going out there and it was to retrieve something that none of us can identify.

    I tried to look at this rationally from every view. I listened to the stuff. I weighed it. It just doesn't hold water to believe the shots came from anywhere but behind in the SBD. It is really just that simple.
  9. CowboyDan

    CowboyDan Anger is a Gift

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    Where did the statement in red come from? Back left?
  10. CowboyDan

    CowboyDan Anger is a Gift

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    Well it looks like you and BlindZebra solved it then! Congrats. The world will be thrilled to know. :)
  11. Hostile

    Hostile Peace Zone Supporter

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    I haven't solved anything, and what I believe about 1 shooter the world already does know.

    I have a brother-in-law who is a magician, and I am very proud of him. He can do some amazing illusions.

    That's what 99% of conspiracy theories are you know. Just an illusion. It's so simple to accept the truth, but the truth is boring, so people want to believe the fantastic. Want it so bad that they alter time, space, and technology to do it.

    You want me to believe in the most magical assassination ever. I want you to believe what your eyes and common sense tell you. No sleight of hand. No misdirection. No shot ever came from the knoll and hit that man.

    I am telling you that no weapon in existence can do what you want me to believe the fictional gun on the knoll did.

    I will even say this. Could there have been a man with a gun there? Yes. But he did not kill the President. If he fired at all, and I don't believe he did, he missed clean and somewhere in the grass of Dealey Plaza is a bullet that was intended for JFK but missed. Maybe Oswald hit him and the slumping President caused the shot to miss.

    That is as far as I will ever go in believing in the magic grassy knoll theory, because I have shot guns all my life and I know for an absolute fact where that shot came from. 6th floor, School Book Depository building from a 6.5 Carcano rifle owned and fired by LHO.
  12. Hostile

    Hostile Peace Zone Supporter

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    From the only logical angle that fired from the right would not have also blown the first lady's head off too.
  13. Aikmaniac

    Aikmaniac Well-Known Member

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    Well, the good thing is that you have gotten some "honest thoughts" in this thread.
  14. Hostile

    Hostile Peace Zone Supporter

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    It has been a fun thread. I have no complaints.
  15. HoleInTheRoof

    HoleInTheRoof Benched

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    Long thread.

    Quick question... has anyone participating budged an ounce from their original stance?
  16. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    If anyone has, it would be an internet first.

    Nobody every changes their stance.
  17. Hostile

    Hostile Peace Zone Supporter

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    Yes, I learned some things from notherbob in particular.

    I also have often wondered about a shot from the knoll. I am now convinced there either wasn't one or he missed badly.
  18. CowboyDan

    CowboyDan Anger is a Gift

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    I'm still up in the air on the whole thing. No certainty here in any direction. Though my strongest feeling is that LHO & a gunman on the grassy knoll carried out the hit, and that it was CIA all the way, with help from Hoover.
  19. ConcordCowboy

    ConcordCowboy Mr. Buckeye

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    Exactly...if there was absolute certainty...we wouldn't still be debating it almost 50 years later.
  20. ConcordCowboy

    ConcordCowboy Mr. Buckeye

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