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Last Time Cowboys 3-1 after 2-1 start was 2003

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Beast_from_East, Sep 28, 2013.

  1. jimnabby

    jimnabby Well-Known Member

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    Well, second-most anyway.

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyy/1951.htm

    Hard to top a team that gives up 722 yards in the season opener. But the Redskins are trying! If they give up 447 this week, they'll beat out the 2011 Patriots (yes, the Super Bowl team) for most yards allowed through 4 games.
  2. blackbull

    blackbull Well-Known Member

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    If the skins win this week and we lose to Denver skins would need to beat us to have the same amount of losses. Lol at them bring buried already.......not quite yet
  3. Toruk_Makto

    Toruk_Makto Well-Known Member

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    Why do fans of our franchise just make things up? Is it for the narrative?

    Didn't this team win 4 of 5 last year to get back into the playoff race? Including two sets of back to back wins?

    As to the OP stat....probably amongst the most irrelevant stats i've seen in some time.
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  4. Questfor6

    Questfor6 Well-Known Member

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    2 points from 3-0 and having a lot of limelight shed on this team coming into this game. This team seems to be forgotten in the media this year because the rest of our division is in shambles.

    I said it back in the offseason and I'll say it again if we stay healthy with our core guys we have equal if not more talent than any team in the NFC. I know Spencer is gone but he actually was never really here this year anyways, George Selvie is playing like the Selvie that use to dominate my Mountaineers back in the day. If we can continue to get production from our DT rotation, letting Rat get to 100% is just a plus.
  5. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    Did you even bother to read my post? I said one of the troubling patterns the Cowboys have developed the past couple of years is rarely do they play well the week following an "impressive" win and I gave several examples. Winning 4 of 5 games last season has nothing to do with my comment you quoted. By the way the Cowboys won 5 of 6 games in 2012 including 3 straight starting in week 10. That's another pattern the Cowboys have they get hot every November before falling off in the most critical games in December/Jan. In 2010 the Cowboys beat a Peyton Manning led Colts team on the road in Indy. The Cowboys picked Manning off 4 times in that game. That was one of the best wins the Cowboys have had in a long time. Even though the Cowboys season was already in the toilet you would have thought a win like that over a quality opponent on the road that was being led by one of the greatest QB's in NFL history would have motivated the team but the following week the Cowboys looked passionless and flat at home in a loss to Philly.

    In week 15 last season the Cowboys had a big win over Pittsburgh in OT. The game was won by Carr picking off Roethlisberger a two-time SB winning QB in OT setting up the game winning FG. Even though the game was tight it was an impressive win over an opponent that usually gets the better of the Cowboys. You would have thought that win would have had the Cowboys breathing fire the following week in a big game vs the Saints but the defense didn't even bother to show up as Brees SHREDDED the Cowboys for 440 yards and 4 TD's. If the Cowboys are going to be a good football team this season and end their 3 year playoff drought they have to be able to stay focused and follow up "impressive" wins with another solid performance. It doesn't take much for complacency to set in with the Cowboys.
  6. Toruk_Makto

    Toruk_Makto Well-Known Member

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    The "get hot in November" line?

    Might as well throw in the Romo December stat.

    And for good measure can you call Romo a choke artist?

    That way you can be wrong in numerous ways.

    I mean seriously...first of all if your argument is based on some arbitrary definition of "impressive"....well that's just a strawman to hide behind.
  7. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    You actually want to argue the Cowboys don't get hot every Nov? Since 06 under Romo the Cowboys are 20-5 in Nov. In 07 and 2011 they didn't lose a single game in Nov. You don't call that getting hot every Nov? Compare their Nov record with their Sept, Oct and Dec/Jan record. My arguments are based on facts and stats the only one who's wrong is you.
  8. Toruk_Makto

    Toruk_Makto Well-Known Member

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    It's a useless stat that doesn't bare to be repeated...or relied upon. It's like never going 3-1 after being 2-1. Just dumb statistics.

    What does the 2006 W-L record have to do with this team? Hell what does the 2012 November W-L record have to do with this team?

    Does the air in Dallas change in November and give this team superhuman strength?

    BTW the stock market does better on sunny days. You should check out Monday's forecast and invest accordingly.
  9. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    It's only a useless stat because it proves you wrong. Anything that becomes a trend/pattern over a period of 7 years is a viable statistic that shouldn't be scoffed upon. There's probably not a QB in the NFL who's had better Nov stats than Romo since 06 which is why the Cowboys are 20-5 under him during Nov. The Cowboys have never had a losing Nov under Romo his numbers have been consistently off the charts during that month. If the Cowboys and Romo were as efficient in Dec/Jan as they are in Nov the team would need a bigger SB trophy case. The Cowboys consistently peak in Nov and begin a slow decline after the Thanksgiving break. Since 06 under Romo the Cowboys are 13-18 in Dec/Jan.
  10. Toruk_Makto

    Toruk_Makto Well-Known Member

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    It proves me wrong?

    Did I ever make any argument that the Boys haven't had good November records? No.

    All I said is it's a useless statistic because it's nothing but mere coincidence. It isn't predictive. It is correlation without causation.

    Do you know what these words mean?
  11. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    Seven straight years of consistency in Nov is no mere coincidence it's a "trend." A coincidence is a fluke and what's been happening to the Cowboys is no fluke it's a pattern. I claimed yesterday one of the troubling patterns with the Cowboys the past couple of seasons is they rarely play well the week following an impressive win and what do you know ONCE AGAIN they fall flat the week following an impressive win. I told you prior to the game today that anything that becomes a trend/pattern should not be scoffed upon and the game today was proof of that. The stats I use to gain a pulse on the Cowboys are not useless stats which is why I'm right about the team most of the time and FANS like you always end up wrong...Nuff said!
  12. Toruk_Makto

    Toruk_Makto Well-Known Member

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    Fooled by randomness.
  13. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    You were fooled alright but not by randomness.
  14. Toruk_Makto

    Toruk_Makto Well-Known Member

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    Until you can establish a causal relationship between wins in November and the Cowboys specifically....I hope you realize how silly you sound.
  15. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    The Cowboys have established several troubling trends that I've pointed out using stats and facts and one of those trends continued today. You don't know the difference between a mere coincidence and a trend and you claim I sound silly? lol
  16. Toruk_Makto

    Toruk_Makto Well-Known Member

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    What is the causal relationship to performing well in November? Other than randomness? Do you know how many moving parts between 2006 and now have changed? The fact that you think the Cowboys have some secret November magic is hilarious.
  17. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    The more moving parts that have changed with the Cowboys the more things remain the same. We're 4 years into Garrett's tenure and the Cowboys have performed like the same up and down team he had during his first full season in 2011. The Cowboys are off to yet another up and down start which is another one of those troubling trends I keep talking about with this team.

    The Cowboys Novembers have been consistently good under Romo since he took over in 06. It has nothing to do with magic or a mere coincidence it's been a "trend" and trends do exist whether you want to accept it or not. The only thing that's hilarious is how in denial you are. A team doesn't go 20-5 in Nov over a 7 year period due to a mere coincidence.
  18. Beast_from_East

    Beast_from_East Well-Known Member

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    I guess Mickey was right................the trend continues.................LOL

    Now have lost 8 consecutive teams when the team was 2-1 looking to go to 3-1.
  19. Toruk_Makto

    Toruk_Makto Well-Known Member

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    Yes. Pure coincidence. A silly stat you dug up. Still waiting on a causal relationship.
  20. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    That's the only defense you have for being wrong.

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