Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by GloryDaysRBack, Jan 25, 2014.
Who are some LBs that you guys like? Both weak and strong side backers
To be honest, Lee can't stay healthy and can't he depended on. Carter as not been a fit in this scheme after playing in beast mode under Rob Ryan. IMO LB is a big need and if they are ting to stick with this scheme, LB is a position that needs alotta resources invested .
Those are the guys I would target somewhere between our 2nd and 4th round picks. Actually seems like a really down year for 4-3 LB.
What do you guys think of this guy:
5. Adrian Hubbard, Alabama
He's 6-5 and 250. Sounds like someone who could also be used to rush the passer. Anyone seen him play?
Shane Skov - Stanford
Jordan Zumwalt - UCLA
Jordan Trip - Montana
Ronald Powell - Florida
I have seen mocks where CJ Mosely is there for us to take in the 1st rd. What do you guys think about that?
Can he play on the outside? Does he have the coverage skills to play a deep zone and underneath? I don't know the player well but he is the top ranked Mike in the draft. I like Carr and the BYU LB but I've not seen a lot of any of them. Seems there is a LB on FL ST I like. NC usually has a LB but don't know this year. There's a young kid at Ohio St.
I stopped and looked Mosely up:
C.J. Mosley, OLB, Alabama
Height: 6-2. Weight: 234.
Projected 40 Time: 4.65.
Projected Round (2014): 1-2.
1/11/14: In 2013, Mosley totaled 102 tackles with nine tackles for a loss, one forced fumble and five passes broken up. He played well against Oklahoma and had 14 tackles versus Auburn. The senior also got burned on some of the Tigers' misdirection read-option runs.
Mosley's best game of the season came against LSU. He was around the ball all night making tackles and having a physical presence. Mosley finished with 12 tackles, two passes broken up and 1.5 tackles for a loss, although he did drop an easy interception.
Mosley was solid in every game in 2013, including against Arkansas when he recorded 10 tackles. Mosley had a good outing versus Texas A&M with 12 tackles. He has showcased a well-rounded game with good run defense, pass coverage and blitzing ability.
8/14/13: Mosley played excellent football for Alabama last season. He led the team with 107 tackles. The junior also notched two interceptions, four sacks, eight tackles for a loss, one forced fumble and two passes broken up. One of his interceptions was returned 16 yards for a touchdown against Michigan.
Mosley has a real presence playing fast and physical football. Alabama's other defenders struggled against Texas A&M in 2012, but he was excellent, making 14 tackles and a sack.
NFL scouts will love Mosley's pass defense. He is a phenomenal defender in the passing game in man coverage, zone coverage and blitzing. Mosley is reliable in the ground game and he is a special player.
Mosley had an excellent debut in 2010. The freshman was third on Alabama's defense with 67 tackles. He also had 10 pass break-ups with two interceptions that were both returned for touchdowns.
Mosley split a starting role with linebacker Nico Johnson in 2011; Mosley was used more in pass defense. He also missed two games with a dislocated elbow, but ended up with 37 tackles with 4.5 tackles for a loss, two sacks and an interception. Mosley was injured again in the national championship after he intercepted a pass from Jordan Jefferson. Mosley dislocated his hip on the tackle by Jefferson, but was fine for the start of the 2012 season.
Mosley has a lot of talent and figures to be very productive for Nick Saban in 2013. The senior is extremely fast and has good instincts.
Here's Barr the OLB for UCLA:
Anthony Barr, OLB, UCLA
Height: 6-4. Weight: 248.
Projected 40 Time: 4.65.
Projected Round (2014): Top-10 Pick.
1/11/14: In 2013, Barr had 65 tackles with 20 tackles for a loss, 10 sacks, five forced fumbles and a pass batted. He showed his amazing burst off the snap and pass-rushing ability with steady pressure all season.
In his penultimate game for the Bruins, he helped beat rival USC with five tackles, three tackles for a loss, one forced fumble and two sacks. Prior to that, Barr had seven tackles with a 2.5 tackles for a loss and a sack against Arizona State. His numbers were solid, but the Sun Devils did a pretty good job of keeping him from making game-changing plays.
Barr stepped up with a big game against Oregon, recording four tackles, two sacks, a forced fumble and a fumble recovery. A week before taking on the Ducks, the senior had eight tackles with a tackle for a loss against Stanford. He recorded three tackles and sack versus California. Barr notched two sacks, five tackles and three tackles for a loss against Utah. He picked up three tackles and a sack versus New Mexico State in the contest before that. His performance against Nebraska was monstrous as he collected forced three fumbles, 11 tackles and 1.5 tackles for a loss.
Barr's performances against Oregon and Stanford confirm his high draft grade. While Will Sutton won the conference defensive player of the year, Barr had the better season.
8/14/13: Barr may have done the most to help himself during the 2012 season of any player in college football. He went from being an obscure fullback who had a total of 12 receptions across two seasons into a potential high first-round pick as a pass-rushing outside linebacker. Barr owes Jim Mora, Jr. and his coaching staff a lot for making the position change.
Barr had a breakout 2012 season and was one of the nation's leader in sacks. The junior collected 13 sacks, 83 tackles, 21.5 tackles for a loss, five passes batted and four forced fumbles. His sack total was the second largest in the nation behind only Georgia's Jarvis Jones. Barr is a tremendous blitzer who would fit well in a NFL 3-4 defense.
Barr is explosive off the edge with fantastic closing speed. He also is a physical player who dishes out some punishing hits on the quarterback.
Barr was consistently good throughout last year, but he was utterly dominant to close out the regular season. Barr then made the smart decision to return to UCLA for the 2013 season. He can still use some developmental time and that further growth could easily push him into the top 10.
Personal: Son of Lori Barr and Tony Brooks. Tony Brooks played fullback at Notre Dame and was a fourth-round pick of the Eagles in the 1992 NFL Draft. Three of Anthony Barr's uncles played in the NFL.
Mosley is the man! My top choice
Jeremiah Attaochu, DE/OLB, Georgia Tech
Height: 6-3. Weight: 242.
Projected 40 Time: 4.71.
Projected Round (2014): 2-3.
1/11/14: In 2013, Attaochu collected 45 tackles with 16 tackles for a loss, two passes batted and 12.5 sacks. He beat North Carolina left tackle James Hurst for one of those sacks. Attaochu had big games against Clemson and Georgia. He is a good speed rusher, but he'll most likely have to move to outside linebacker in the NFL.
8/12/13: Attaochu is fast and is very athletic. He has some natural pass-rush ability as he enters his senior year with 19 career sacks. Attaochu is moving from outside linebacker to defensive end for 2013. He should gain weight for the NFL and looks like he would fit well as a 3-4 outside linebacker.
Attaochu totaled 69 tackles, 10 sacks, 12 tackles for a loss, one pass broken up and one forced fumble last year. He had solid sophomore season with 59 tackles, 11.5 tackles for a loss, six sacks, one interception, two passes broken up and two forced fumbles.
Personal: Majoring in science, technology and culture. Son of Paul and Comfort, originally from Nigeria.
bit of a tweener, but I feel like given his production and skill set he his being overlooked big time
I like him as a Mike. I don't know about 4-3 OLB.
I want at least one cover OLB who is good to decent against the run.
He's a football player so someone will find a place for him somewhere. You apparently know him better than me so I'll defer to you.
I saw him play parts of one game so I don't know him. I do know I want an OLB who can cover and play the run.
The scouting reports you just posted said it all. He can do everything. Play the run, cover, blitz..etc
Denicos Allen, OLB, Michigan State
Height: 5-11. Weight: 225.
Projected 40 Time: 4.49.
Projected Round (2014): 4-6.
1/11/14: In 2013, Allen had 98 tackles with 5.5 sacks, one pass broken up and 16.5 tackles for a loss. He was a dangerous edge-rusher and a disruptor for the Spartans' tough defense.
8/14/13: Allen's numbers were down significantly in 2012. He totaled 79 tackles, three sacks, one forced fumble, one interception and five passes broken up. Allen had huge year in 2011. The redshirt sophomore recorded 11 sacks and 18 tackles for a loss. The first-year starter also had 83 tackles. Allen needs to add some weight, but he looks like a good pursuit linebacker prospect for a 4-3 defense.
Personal: Majoring in sociology. Son of Eric Fleetwood and Sharelle Allen.
I like his speed and I saw one game and was impressed. This is a Coakley type. If he had hips I'd think about using him at S. I don't like his height though. He's a player though.
I want to see some speed at LB. That's why I'm so disappointed in Carter. We have got to get to the ball better including coverage. Now I'll take an instinctive and quick guy like Lee over a faster player who isn't as good a player. But I'd prefer to have a fast, big, quick, LB who can cover and plug holes. Of course any FB coach would.
He would be an end in the 4-3. His coverage ability would be minimal, at best, as a OLB.
Not entirely sure who fast Mosley is...but his instincts are exceptional..I know he isn't slow