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Love the pick!

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by ufcrules1, May 8, 2014.

  1. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    Enough with the Manziel teams who needed QB badly passed on him why because he is over hype small QB with small hands this is not college. Johnny Football is way over hyped and Dallas would have been a joke to take him. All this bridgewater and Maniel talk and yet the NFL teams passed up both until late.
  2. jrumann59

    jrumann59 Well-Known Member

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    While our line was greatly improved, we were not a gangbuster running to the right. Free is probably an average to slightly above average pass blocker but running he is does not have strength at the point of attack. He blocks for a stalemate. If anything this pick can make the right side much stronger at the point of attack whether its berny and martin or martin and free. I hoping the former and not the later because martin is a step up from berny, free would still be the weak link in the running game to the right side.
  3. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    True but then Murray is not really an outside runner as he is a between the tackles type runner and with Frederick and Martin if front of him I would expect this fits Murray to a tee
  4. Nation

    Nation Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    I disagree completely. Doug Free is a free agent in 2015. Leary has bad knees and is a restricted free agent. Not to mention QB isn't a position of need either, and that was your initial premise.
  5. jrumann59

    jrumann59 Well-Known Member

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    I agree but Free is little more than a speed bump in run blocking. A little exaggeration but he does not blow his guy off the line and does not sustain blocks well in the run so with that combination his guy is still capable of making the play. He blocks more like a TE in the running game get in their way and slow the defensive player down enough that the play is by them.
  6. garrett316

    garrett316 5 against 1 Zone Supporter

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    I like this pick too. Zach Martin is actually older than both Tyron Smith and Travis Frederick.

    I only point this out because if we hit on Martin like I feel we did on the first two guys, we are nearly set on the oline for a decade.

    Just a sound football decision by the Cowboys last night IMO.
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  7. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    Hard for an outside guy to make the tackle on an inside run when all Free has to do is stalemate the guy and frankly I don't think Free played poorly last season.
  8. jrumann59

    jrumann59 Well-Known Member

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    No he did not pay poorly but he is at his ceiling, he is what he is. If Martin is better than him at RT I would be content with Martin at RT, if not and Martin is better than Berny or Leary at OG then so be it. The Martin pick lights a fire under 3 "incumbents" which in the end is good for the team. Martin has more upside than the guys he may be replacing.
  9. SilverStarCowboy

    SilverStarCowboy The Actualist

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    Martin is a Day 1 starter, again - if he is as good as Frederick you take him all day long @16. I think he is even better than Chance Warmack or Cooper and everyones 2013 Want List.

    How can you be disappointed for not landing Cooper or Warmack and still be disappointed with Zach Martin is pretty much inconceivable but it's out there.
  10. Wayne02

    Wayne02 Well-Known Member

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    He actually has the largest hands of all the top QB's.
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  11. ufcrules1

    ufcrules1 Well-Known Member

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    Free was very good last year which was a surprise considering he was THE WORST at his position in the entire league in 2012. I wouldn't count on him for jack squat but you never know.
  12. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    This just simply needs repeating. The change in philosophy at VR this year is unbelievable and something no one saw coming. I'm very encouraged.
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  13. Super_Kazuya

    Super_Kazuya Well-Known Member

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    It would have been even more worthy of repeating if it didn't come from someone who was lying through their teeth and was on their hands and knees praying Jerry would take Johnny Football...:p
  14. ufcrules1

    ufcrules1 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, something is for sure changing and for the better. I'm very excited about the change I'm seeing, I just hope it lasts, because if so, Dallas will be a strong contender in a few years. After almost 2 decades of heartbreak, we are loooong over due!
  15. CT Dal Fan

    CT Dal Fan Well-Known Member

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    Love it too. Sometimes the best picks aren't "need" picks. You don't leave "A" players on the board and take "B" players just to fill a need. Period.
  16. Animosity

    Animosity Active Member

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    I would have been even more pleased if we drafted Johnny Football. What a wasted opportunity.
  17. sadams

    sadams Well-Known Member

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    I noticed that also. They slammed the phone down disappointed when they called in the pick. I think they were nearly done on a trade with someone and the suitor got cold feet and backed out. BUT I still like the pick. Solid choice. Stuck to the board and made a good pick despite not apparently getting what they wanted.
  18. RW Hitman

    RW Hitman Well-Known Member

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    wasnt a position of need? hmmmm
  19. RW Hitman

    RW Hitman Well-Known Member

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    I thank God we passed on JF, finally Jerry is learning.
  20. ConstantReboot

    ConstantReboot Well-Known Member

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    I think having a good center makes the entire oline better, including Free.

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