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Make or Break Time With Arkin/Kowalski

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by FuzzyLumpkins, Jul 21, 2013.

  1. FuzzyLumpkins

    FuzzyLumpkins The Boognish

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    With Livings and Leary out for the start of camp both of these guys will be seeing a lot of practice snaps. I know a lot of people have been down on Arkin and a close to equal number have Killer as a pet cat.

    I figure that many of you already figured this on your own so in the spirit of creating a discussion I ask you Zoners: how do you think that they will do?

    I'm not sure myself but I have a suspicion that this TC will be deciding whether or not they have a future with this team
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  2. jobberone

    jobberone Right turn Clyde Staff Member

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    That's likely. There's generally a few surprises every year and one or two will be on the OL IMO.
  3. GloryDaysRBack

    GloryDaysRBack Well-Known Member

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    They have no future w this team.
  4. Bullflop

    Bullflop Well-Known Member

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    I think Kowalski has a better shot to be retained than Arkin. Whether that's true or not remains to be seen.
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  5. BIGDen

    BIGDen Dr. Freakasaurus Zone Supporter

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    This is how I feel as well. I have little to no faith in Arkin. I have yet to see him play well and I'm doubtful that he's strong enough to anchor in this league. Kowalski, in a limited amount of time, showed more potential IMO.
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  6. Fredd

    Fredd Well-Known Member

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    these guys are PS at best at this point...yes, TC should get them some snaps, but I don't see them cracking into the top 5 and possibly not the top 10 OL on this team
  7. Joe Rod

    Joe Rod When Keeping it Real Goes Wrong

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    Putting Arkin at Center last preseason hosed him royally. He may not pan out, but he needs to sit at guard and pass or fail there.
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  8. jobberone

    jobberone Right turn Clyde Staff Member

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    Yeah, I think you might be right about that.
  9. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    Agreed.
  10. RW Hitman

    RW Hitman Well-Known Member

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    PS or bust...
  11. stasheroo

    stasheroo Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you. I hope he proves me wrong, but I'm in Broaddus' camp that he's just not a strong enough guy to play at the NFL level.
  12. unionjack8

    unionjack8 Well-Known Member

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    Kowalski offers true position flexibility, we have seen him play C before and know that he can. Arkin is a G ONLY.
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  13. AsthmaField

    AsthmaField Outta bounds

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    IMO, I don't think Arkin is as bad as most people think... and I don't think that Kowalski is as good as most people think.

    I haven't given up on either one and I hope that one or both can actually turn into decent players for us. I do feel like it is getting time to either do it or get off the team though.
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  14. RS12

    RS12 Well-Known Member

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    Arkin for sure.
  15. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    This is about how I feel. I was pleasantly surprised with Kowalski. And mildly disappointed with Arkin (I had hopes for him), but both are borderline roster guys who have a chance to be on the active roster and an outside chance at starting one day. Both could also be off the roster entirely if they don't show improvement this year in camp.
  16. EGG

    EGG Well-Known Member

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    That's my feeling about both of those guys, too weak to be starters. How much stronger can they get in two or three offseasons is the 64,000 dollar question.
  17. revospeed

    revospeed Active Member

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    I'm in agreement with you. Something has to be said for Arkin still getting starting reps whenever Livings and Bernadeau are out despite Broaddus telling everyone that a wet kleenex would be better. I think that the coaches see that Arkin has a high enough football IQ despite not being a mauler, to give him a chance in this zone blocking scheme.
  18. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    Really? You think of Kowalski as weak? I haven't been too concerned with that with him. If anything, it just seems like the coaches have him pegged as a low-ceiling guy. He played really well at C under tough circumstances and has looked good to me whenever he's been in. Honestly, I'm surprised he hasn't gotten more press as a potential developmental starter, and I'm assuming from the fact that he has not that the team has a reason that's beyond me for not being higher on him. The fact that he hasn't been getting the reps or the press or the fluff from guys with access to what the coaches really think does say a lot, though.
  19. EGG

    EGG Well-Known Member

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    Functional strength is what appeared to be missing, I've got vivid memories of him being blown up and thrown into the backfield.more than a few times. Not as weak as Arkin obviously, but not ready for prime time either.
  20. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    They are not eligible for the practice squad because they've both been on the 53 man roster for too many games.

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