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Manziel, If He's There Will Jerry & What Would You Do?

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by TwoDeep3, Feb 27, 2014.

  1. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    If Manziel lasts until 16, who is going to trade up for him? Very few teams below us needs a QB that badly that they would be willing to give up selections in a deep draft for him.

    Cleveland would be about the only team that would be willing to do it and even then why not just wait out the seven picks and take him then?

    Otherwise you are looking at a trade down all the way into the top of the second. That should not even be an option.

    There is a good strong possibility Dallas cannot and should not move down at all, no matter how much the wildcatter might want to.
  2. KB1122

    KB1122 Well-Known Member

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    If he is still there at 16, I think that's an easy choice.

    If the Cowboys really believe he is the guy, then they should do what it takes to go get him.

    Maybe RGIII works out, maybe he doesn't. But being aggressive was a lot better decision than sitting there waiting for someone to fall or playing the veteran free agent market again. Which is where we will be soon if we're not smart.
  3. KB1122

    KB1122 Well-Known Member

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    Why do you assume he'll be doing nothing? If he's a special quarterback, he'll be the starter sooner by the end of his second year.
  4. TwoDeep3

    TwoDeep3 Well-Known Member

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    I was curious. I don't believe I have seen another one like it.

    Do you always answer a question with a question?
  5. Super_Kazuya

    Super_Kazuya Well-Known Member

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    LOL, not here. He'll be the starter on day one in Cleveland or Houston where he belongs.
  6. WPBCowboysFan

    WPBCowboysFan Well-Known Member

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    Certain types of questions, yes.

    Its all good bro. Not a problem.
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  7. CATCH17

    CATCH17 1st Round Pick

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    That ship sailed when we gave Romo his gigantic contract.


    I would love to have him though but he is not a guy who you can sit for a few years and it would just be bad for Romo as well because anytime he had a bad game the pressure would be so high to start Manziel.
  8. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    I would not move up to get Manziel if by chance he lasted until 16 I would still be leery of the selection but could live with the pick. only reason I say this is because I know what is was like after Aikman left and Dallas went through and I don't want to see that happen again. I'm not as sold on Manziel as others but could not say it was a bad pick.
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  9. TwoDeep3

    TwoDeep3 Well-Known Member

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    Why?
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  10. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    I agree. Rodgers sat behind Farve for what 3 years before he took over.
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  11. DallasEast

    DallasEast Cowboys 24/7/365 Zone Supporter

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    Jerry will select Manziel if Romo's back condition is worse than publicly announced. I would pick Manziel for the exact same reason. The draft cannot get here fast enough for me to settle this uncertainty. Unless Romo's back dictates otherwise, there are far more pressing non-quarterback needs which shall be addressed in the first three rounds of this draft. JMO.
  12. Doc50

    Doc50 Original Fan Zone Supporter

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    For Johnny, NFL will mean "not for long".

    The speed and strength of defenses is much more prominent now than when Tarkenton played; he'd get crushed in today's league also.
  13. visionary

    visionary Well-Known Member

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    Trade down
    Not a fan of manziel
    Someone shod give you a kings ransom for that pick
    IMO the 3 best QBs in this draft will be bridgewater, bortles and garoppolo

    In this scenario with a lot of extra picks I would take garoppolo at the top of rd 2 as my future QB
  14. TwoDeep3

    TwoDeep3 Well-Known Member

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    As Alex said, not many behind 16 need a QB.
  15. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    Ok...No Thanks...Take someone else.

    Or You still trade down and get a first rounder next year while still getting a second and change this year.
  16. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    Yes yes yes!!!
  17. Section444

    Section444 Well-Known Member

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    I'm all about drafting Romo's replacement ASAP, but I don't think that he's the right guy. I think that you'd have to seriously consider it if he fell, but I'd ultimately pass.
  18. Zimmy Lives

    Zimmy Lives Well-Known Member

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    A thousand times, yes!

    If he is there at 16 it would be a great investment for the future. No trade down, just take the dang player.
  19. Super_Kazuya

    Super_Kazuya Well-Known Member

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    There's a reason why that's the only example you can come up with, and even the Packers did not plan for things to break that way. It's a stupid thing to do that worked out one time so people act like it's some blueprint to follow. Even with it "working", they were a contending team for 3 years that got to an NFC championship game who had a first round pick sitting there doing nothing for THREE years. You think they couldn't have used a first round talent somewhere else to maybe put them over the top? It's a stupid thing to do, which is why no one does it.
  20. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    I'm not a fan. However, if the scouting department disagrees and they've given Manziel a franchise QB grade, they'd be idiots to not draft him. You don't take a franchise QB when it's convenient. You take one when you can get one.

    The fixated on need crowd who want to bastardize the NFL Draft into some quick fix for the franchise will disagree. Those who respect the process for what it is, an investment for the future, will always keep an open mind to it.

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