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Melton Deal vs Hatcher Deal

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by ABQcowboyJR, Mar 20, 2014.

  1. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    Cowboys > Redskins
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  2. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    True. LOL

    I would love to wish Hatcher the best I think he is a good guy but now that he is a redskin well Bye. lol
  3. thunderpimp91

    thunderpimp91 Active Member

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    If you want to go strictly by sacks, fine you win. Like i said before its picking between two of the best in the game, and in the end should be happy to have either one.
  4. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    Well duh. :)
  5. ABQcowboyJR

    ABQcowboyJR Well-Known Member

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    Not after year two though, at least not to the same extent.
  6. RastaRocket

    RastaRocket Sanka, Ya Dead Mon? Ya Mon.

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    I get that, but Hatcher is still the better player at the moment. OP said Melton is the better player.
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  7. gimmesix

    gimmesix Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life

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    Hatcher might can be considered the better pass rusher, based on last season, but I don't think he's close to being better against the run.

    It will probably be a little irrelevant this season, though, because Hatcher is playing in a 3-4 while Melton is in the honey position in this 4-3. Unless Washington runs a variant of the 3-4 where Hatcher is allowed to just allow the pocket, his numbers won't be close to the same.
  8. gimmesix

    gimmesix Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life

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    Where has it been said that Marinelli wanted Hatcher over Melton? According to Hatcher, the Cowboys didn't express any interest in him.

  9. Little Jr

    Little Jr Well-Known Member

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    no but thats not what you said. lol
  10. Vanilla2

    Vanilla2 Well-Known Member

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    The same people would be raising a crap storm had they paid hatch what the skids gave him.
  11. Little Jr

    Little Jr Well-Known Member

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    some would like it until 3 years down the road when it didnt work out then they would scream jj over paid.
  12. CyberB0b

    CyberB0b Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Age doesn't really matter if you are guaranteeing a DT 9 million dollars in 2015. That's a lot of chedda.
  13. AsthmaField

    AsthmaField Outta bounds

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    Melton is a better player for this defense. And if his knee is fine, he is an upgrade over Hatcher.
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  14. AsthmaField

    AsthmaField Outta bounds

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    As Jimmy Johnson said, "Run stoppers are a dime-a-dozen. It is the pass rushers that you pay for."

    I certainly hope you guys didn't pay him that much to just stuff the run. Even Danny wouldn't do that would he?
  15. SkinsFan28

    SkinsFan28 Active Member

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    Did you see our "run stopping" last year. Players were at the 2nd level before they ever were touched. That said, I also expect that Hatcher will be used in tandem with Orakpo or Kerrigan pretty often to get to the passer.
  16. AsthmaField

    AsthmaField Outta bounds

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    Used in tandem from which position? Are you saying he will play some OLB opposite one of those guys? Or are you saying he will be rushing as a 34 DE, which we already knew about?
  17. Califan007

    Califan007 Well-Known Member

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    I'm surprised some of you guys actually thought the Skins' deal with Hatcher was a decent one...even if you didn't realize it at the time lol:

    Props to this guy lol...here's what the Skins gave him:

    9m SB
    yr 1: 1.5m
    yr 2: 3m
    yr 3: 6.5m

    Really a 3 year 20.5m deal.

    Almost exactly what jterrell said he'd do.

    Others seemed to like it as well:

    Again, just to compare to what the Redskins gave Hatcher:

    9 million SB (as opposed to 8 mil)
    4.5 mil over the next two years (as opposed to 5 mil)
    "Really" turns into a 2 year 13.5 million deal (as opposed to 2 year, 13 mil deal)

    And again, this contract proposal didn't fall on deaf ears here:

    Just an aside, Hatcher had 8.5 sacks in his last 2 seasons as a 3-4 DE. The Redskins entire DL only had 9 sacks in 2012-2013.

    I guarantee you the Redskins need a leader, Pro Bowler, a guy who plays with passion and heart, on it's defense...London Fletcher filled that role brilliantly for almost his entire career in Washington. That's a void that needs filling.
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  18. AsthmaField

    AsthmaField Outta bounds

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    Dude... Hatcher is worth that playing as a 3-tech in this 43 defense.

    He is decidedly not when playing as a 34 DE... which he is non-descript as.

    I'm surprised that you didn't figure that out.
  19. Pessimist_cowboy

    Pessimist_cowboy Well-Known Member

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    Wow you couldn't be more wrong . Melton's weakness is vs the run . It's noted in recent articles .
  20. TheCount

    TheCount Pixel Pusher

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    I have little doubt that if money wasn't an issue, Hatcher would still be a Cowboy and Melton would be elsewhere. For better or worse.

    Some can fool themselves if they want, but you don't swap a healthy 31 year old coming off his best season for a 27 year old with coming off his worst. Age isn't an issue here.

    With Hatcher out of reach, Melton was a consolidation prize. Now we just gotta see what we won.
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