Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by ABQcowboyJR, Mar 20, 2014.
Cowboys > Redskins
I would love to wish Hatcher the best I think he is a good guy but now that he is a redskin well Bye. lol
If you want to go strictly by sacks, fine you win. Like i said before its picking between two of the best in the game, and in the end should be happy to have either one.
Not after year two though, at least not to the same extent.
I get that, but Hatcher is still the better player at the moment. OP said Melton is the better player.
Hatcher might can be considered the better pass rusher, based on last season, but I don't think he's close to being better against the run.
It will probably be a little irrelevant this season, though, because Hatcher is playing in a 3-4 while Melton is in the honey position in this 4-3. Unless Washington runs a variant of the 3-4 where Hatcher is allowed to just allow the pocket, his numbers won't be close to the same.
Where has it been said that Marinelli wanted Hatcher over Melton? According to Hatcher, the Cowboys didn't express any interest in him.
no but thats not what you said. lol
The same people would be raising a crap storm had they paid hatch what the skids gave him.
some would like it until 3 years down the road when it didnt work out then they would scream jj over paid.
Age doesn't really matter if you are guaranteeing a DT 9 million dollars in 2015. That's a lot of chedda.
Melton is a better player for this defense. And if his knee is fine, he is an upgrade over Hatcher.
As Jimmy Johnson said, "Run stoppers are a dime-a-dozen. It is the pass rushers that you pay for."
I certainly hope you guys didn't pay him that much to just stuff the run. Even Danny wouldn't do that would he?
Did you see our "run stopping" last year. Players were at the 2nd level before they ever were touched. That said, I also expect that Hatcher will be used in tandem with Orakpo or Kerrigan pretty often to get to the passer.
Used in tandem from which position? Are you saying he will play some OLB opposite one of those guys? Or are you saying he will be rushing as a 34 DE, which we already knew about?
I'm surprised some of you guys actually thought the Skins' deal with Hatcher was a decent one...even if you didn't realize it at the time lol:
Props to this guy lol...here's what the Skins gave him:
yr 1: 1.5m
yr 2: 3m
yr 3: 6.5m
Really a 3 year 20.5m deal.
Almost exactly what jterrell said he'd do.
Others seemed to like it as well:
Again, just to compare to what the Redskins gave Hatcher:
9 million SB (as opposed to 8 mil)
4.5 mil over the next two years (as opposed to 5 mil)
"Really" turns into a 2 year 13.5 million deal (as opposed to 2 year, 13 mil deal)
And again, this contract proposal didn't fall on deaf ears here:
Just an aside, Hatcher had 8.5 sacks in his last 2 seasons as a 3-4 DE. The Redskins entire DL only had 9 sacks in 2012-2013.
I guarantee you the Redskins need a leader, Pro Bowler, a guy who plays with passion and heart, on it's defense...London Fletcher filled that role brilliantly for almost his entire career in Washington. That's a void that needs filling.
Dude... Hatcher is worth that playing as a 3-tech in this 43 defense.
He is decidedly not when playing as a 34 DE... which he is non-descript as.
I'm surprised that you didn't figure that out.
Wow you couldn't be more wrong . Melton's weakness is vs the run . It's noted in recent articles .
I have little doubt that if money wasn't an issue, Hatcher would still be a Cowboy and Melton would be elsewhere. For better or worse.
Some can fool themselves if they want, but you don't swap a healthy 31 year old coming off his best season for a 27 year old with coming off his worst. Age isn't an issue here.
With Hatcher out of reach, Melton was a consolidation prize. Now we just gotta see what we won.