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Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by Biggems, Jan 3, 2008.

  1. Biggems

    Biggems White and Nerdy

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    we trade our #31 and 5th to Atlanta for #37 and #67

    (1) 22. CB - Aqib Talib - Kansas
    (2) 37. WR - Limas Sweed - Texas
    (2) 63. RB - Chris Johnson - ECU / Jamaal Charles - Texas
    (3) 67. CB - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie
    (3) 95. FB - Owen Schmitt - WVU
    (4) C - Doug Legursky - Marshall / Cory Lichtensteiger - Bowling Green
    (6) OLB - Brandon Miller - Georgia
    (7) BPA
  2. Bob Sacamano

    Bob Sacamano Benched

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    I doubt we trade out of the 1st round to add just a 2nd and 3rd round pick

    and why is everyone wanting us to take FBs? we have 2 good ones that the staff are really high on
  3. Biggems

    Biggems White and Nerdy

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    Hoyte sucks....he blocks like a girl....Moose could come out of the booth with his jacked up neck and block on Saturday far better than Hoyte has blocked this year.

    I like Cricket, but he had a bad injury. I actually like him better as our Richie Anderson type FB.....and have Schmitt as our Lorenzo Neal type FB.

    With these 2 FBs we would only need to have 2 RBs on the roster....MB3 and Johnson/Charles.....but if we did want a 3rd guy, perhaps we could go after Alridge from Houston near the end of the draft.....his size will definitely be the reason he drops. However, he has a very nice skillset and is a KR. That would make him a valuable asset for us.
  4. Bob Sacamano

    Bob Sacamano Benched

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    if we take a FB, it would be more likely that he's taken near the end of the draft
  5. Biggems

    Biggems White and Nerdy

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    well seeing as how our running game wasn't all that productive......sure we got some yards, but we definitely couldn't grind it out if we had to....I would say we need something.

    our blocking wasn't the greatest. Wade had Neal in SD blocking for LT......he saw the holes that Neal opened up for LT and the success that LT had running.

    Schmitt is that kind of FB. if he has to be had in the 3rd, so be it. If this guy spends the next 10 years blocking like Moose and Neal and opening up gaping holes for MB3 and the like.......it is well worth it.
  6. masomenos

    masomenos Less is more

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    Thats a pretty high risk draft. Sweed has serious speed concerns, is a long strider and doesn't get great separation and was never a huge production guy in college. Chris Johnson played at a small school where he had one good year, and has never consistently proven he can do anything buy run outside. Jamaal Charles I like more, although he fumbles quite a bit. Cromartie is a guy who went to a small school, is still raw and has a playing weight of around 175 pounds and could be a liability against the run. A FB is being drafted in round 3, as much as I like Schmitt, I can't imagine that.
  7. EchoBrain22

    EchoBrain22 beWaredizzle

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    Schmitt wont last till the 3rd round.
  8. Biggems

    Biggems White and Nerdy

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    Charles corrected his fumbling problems with the help of Earl Campbell. Believe me as a UT fan, I have been very critical of Charles. However, once he was shown how to hold the ball...and UT finally called some decent run plays for him, Charles exploded in the second half of the season.

    Sweed makes acrobatic catches. He had a bad wrist this year and it definitely affected his game. He doesn't need barnburner speed with his size and long stride. Vince wasn't as fast as Vick, but he still covered tons of ground when he ran the football. TO was never the fastest WR to play, but he is big with a long stride and will break it if he gets in the open. If Sweed gets it one on one going deep, he most likely scores.

    Cromartie would be competing for our #4 CB with Ball. He would come in on Nickel and Dime situations. He would have Newman, Henry, and Talib ahead of him.
  9. Bob Sacamano

    Bob Sacamano Benched

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    ah, the King returns

    how you doin', boi?
  10. masomenos

    masomenos Less is more

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    Like I said, I like Charles, but he does has had fumbling issues and hasn't been away from them long enough to convince me that they're gone. I remember people saying the same thing about Ahman Green fixing his problem with fumbling too and never seeing it be true. That said, I happen to be a UT fan as well, and I think Charles would be a good fit. I was just pointing out that he's a high risk than some backs because of past issues. I wouldn't complain if he were picked though, not at all, I'd love it in fact.

    Sweed, well, I've never been impressed with Sweed. Just like I wasn't impressed with Dwayne Jarrett I guess. He's not the kind of guy I would spend a 1st round pick on, maybe (MAYBE) a late second be certainly not a 1st. He's a guy who never had great production, wasn't a big factor in big games (see: OK, Ohio St, USC). He doesn't run great routes, isn't explosive and doesn't project well as a #1. His long stride limits his explosion of the ball, that's not good. His long strides also limit his ability to run sharp routes and explode in and out of cuts, that's bad too. Pass on Sweed.

    While Cromartie would be a developmental pick for us, I understand that much, I don't understand the necessity of taking a raw guy so early if he's simply going to push last years 7th round pick. His size will always make him a liability in run support though, regardless of how much he develops.
  11. masomenos

    masomenos Less is more

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    The King... I like that lol. And the Cowboys have the first seed in the NFC, how do ya think Im doin!? Glad to see you're still around haha.
  12. Bob Sacamano

    Bob Sacamano Benched

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    yeah, I'm still around, still alienating people lol

    post more, we need to balance out the maroons
  13. masomenos

    masomenos Less is more

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    Haha, Im working on it...I have 4 or 5 posts in the last 24 hours after about 8 months of silence, so Im improving lol.
  14. Biggems

    Biggems White and Nerdy

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    Yes he is thin. but he has nice height and is a burner. I am sure he will be put into the weight room to bulk up......btw, Deion wasn't the biggest guy around. Neither was Darrell Green. And that midget who used to play for the Eagles.....McMillan I believe it was.
  15. silverbear

    silverbear Semi-Official Loose Cannon

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    Hmmmm, I like it... I don't know if drafting both Talib and Rodgers-Cromartie isn't a bit of overkill, but other than that, those are some solid picks...

    Perhaps a nice free safety instead of Rodgers-Cromatrie, like Demps from UTEP, would improve this draft a bit...
  16. silverbear

    silverbear Semi-Official Loose Cannon

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    They're both solid blockers, but don't offer much in the way of receiving or running threats... Schmitt, and to a lesser extent Peyton Hillis, are more versatile offensive players...
  17. DawnOfANewD

    DawnOfANewD New Member

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    Given how many holes ATL, I see them trading down for more picks rather than up for better ones.
  18. silverbear

    silverbear Semi-Official Loose Cannon

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    And yet, he was one of the fastest hurdlers in the state of Texas in his junior and senior years in high school... this comes from his bio on the UT website:

    Add that to the fact that he's averaged 33.3 yards per catch for his 20 career TD catches, and you start to think that maybe he's a wee bit faster than folks are giving him credit for... so does 9 catches over 40 yards...

    I'm completely confident that when he runs at the combine, the speed questions will be forever laid to rest... he'll run under 4.5 seconds, count on it...
  19. Biggems

    Biggems White and Nerdy

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    well if we dont trade any of our picks

    1 - CB Aqib Talib or Antione Cason
    1 - WR Adarius Bowman/Limas Sweed or RB Chris Johnson
    2 - RB Jamaal Charles or WR James Hardy
    3 - FS Quentin Demps
    4 - FB Owen Schmitt
    5 - C Legursky or Lichtensteiger
    6 - OLB Brandon Miller - Georgia
    7 - BPA
  20. masomenos

    masomenos Less is more

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    He may run under 4.5, sure, he's a long strider that can move pretty quickly when he has some room, but he's by no means a blazing threat that's going to burn past the deep secondary. I'll bet you he has one of the worst 10 yard splits too, count on it. Who cares what he runs really? Watch him play, he plays slow, guys are right there on him a lot of the time.

    Catching long TDs doesn't mean that you've separated from defenders though; Sweed has made a number of his long TD catches with people on him who just didn't make good plays on the ball. NFL CBs are going to make better plays on the ball than CBs from Baylor the majority of the time, unless maybe Sweed lines up opposite of Jaques Reeves at some point. The fact of the matter still remains that he's never been a very productive college WR. If he cant do it in college consistently against top teams what reason is their to believe that he can do it in the NFL? The fact that he's tall?

    Edit: 25% of Sweeds 20 TDs came against Rice and Baylor.

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