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My Yearly Report on What I Am Hearing About the Draft

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by Hostile, Apr 21, 2011.

  1. skinsscalper

    skinsscalper Well-Known Member

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    I don't either, Hos. Not this year. To be able to parlay next year's 1st into getting two of the top ten players in this draft when the chances of us picking in the top of the draft next year seem to be slim makes the deal that much more appealing.

    I'd jump all over it.
  2. Corleone

    Corleone Well-Known Member

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    Yep, I think that is a big wildcard in the Peterson trade up deal, plus if San Fran wants him, like Hostile said, not much we can do about that.

    Your trade down scenario sounds really good to me, we could epically improve that O-line. I would love to have both Castonzo and Pouncey if that were possible without giving next years pick. I'm not sure if we would be able to do so without giving a second rounder, and the second round is where I think we have to address either a safety or DE/DT. It all depends on what kind of package it would take.
  3. fortdick

    fortdick Well-Known Member

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    You mean Jerry?
  4. HoleInTheRoof

    HoleInTheRoof Benched

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    I don't think Jerry is clueless as many make him out to be, but until he genuinely proves he has an eye for talent (string together a number of solid drafts/free agent periods), then people are correct in the assertion that he simply doesn't have it.
  5. HoleInTheRoof

    HoleInTheRoof Benched

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    You guys realize our first next year is going to be #32, right?

    I'm trade our first next year, no problem.

    /homer
  6. sonnyboy

    sonnyboy Benched

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    One thing Hos mentioned as a negative, I see as a huge positive for the Cowboys.

    That's the possibility of no CBA and an extension of the current format. No cap in 2011!

    That's huge for us. Now we can sign our FA DEs and go get Huff to take care of the FS need.

    It also gives us flexibility with Newman and a few other overpriced vets.


    Now we can focus our draft resources on the OL.
  7. fortdick

    fortdick Well-Known Member

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    I don't know if there will be a lot of trading of next year's picks. What if the NFLPA wins in court and the draft goes away? Slim chance, but would you give up your first round pick with a chance you might not get compensation?
  8. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    Two drafts ago we had one of the worst drafts since Lacewell was around.
    How is that for "reflective"?

    And he is just as prone to have a ridiculously bad draft now as he had in 2001 and 1995.

    I would love to see consistent evidence that his knowledge base has increased thanks to his two decades of draft experience before I think he has learned anything from it.
  9. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    On earlier trade down discussions, I have a question:

    Have we EVER traded down out of the top 10?
    I can't recall us ever doing it.

    I'm not totally against the idea if the players we want are gone and the value is not there, but I tend to think Jerry wants to take advatange of having a top 10 pick.
    As for them making the right pick, that's a crapshoot for sure.
  10. tm1119

    tm1119 Well-Known Member

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    Jerry has also never taken an O-lineman in the 1st round,....Its going to be an interesting draft for sure.
  11. sonnyboy

    sonnyboy Benched

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    Not with top of the 1st rd picks. We've actually done well in that spot.
  12. sonnyboy

    sonnyboy Benched

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    Just look at our record the past ten years. Clear eveidence of an upward progression.
  13. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    2009 was as bad as any draft he has ever had.

    And yes, getting rid of Larry Lacewell would make anyone look better.

    The whole point is that Jones is only as good as who is around him because he has no eye for talent. So considering the fact he has surrounded himself with slightly better individuals in the past decade, that does not demonstrate a thing about him being capable after 20 years. He is not much different now than he ever was. It is just the supporting cast has changed.
  14. sonnyboy

    sonnyboy Benched

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    I was referring to the team's record.

    6-10
    11-5
    9-7
    13-3
    9-7
    9-7
    9-7
    6-10
    10-6
    5-11
    5-11
    5-11
  15. StarMan

    StarMan Well-Known Member

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    1 playoff win in the last 15 seasons. If that doesn't prove he's clueless, I don't know what it's going to take.
  16. sonnyboy

    sonnyboy Benched

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    Our rolling 5 year average win total has been steadily increasing for some time now.
    Total Wins......Per season average
    2006-2010 = 48...................9.6
    2005-2009 = 51...................10.2
    2004-2008 = 46...................9.2
    2003-2007 = 47...................9.4
    2002-2006 = 39...................7.8
    2001-2005 = 35...................7.0
    2000-2004 = 31...................6.2
  17. visionary

    visionary Well-Known Member

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    oh man, now you've done it
    if this is how stupid it is, JJ is sure to do it for shiny new toys
  18. ABQcowboyJR

    ABQcowboyJR Well-Known Member

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    Well i can only hope PP doesn't fall and T.Smith is gone..........
  19. Bowdown27

    Bowdown27 Well-Known Member

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    This is my first post on the website i've been on the ranch for years and heard good things on here so figured I'd join!!!!

    but I hope we make a move for peterson in the first then pick up a rt or or guard in the second or even trade late in the first to get an ol. Don't get me wrong I wouldn't be upset taking an ol in the first but I think if we have a shot at peterson we jump on it.
  20. sonnyboy

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    Speaking of going for broke, I'm starting to think if the Peterson trade goes off at a cost of our 3rd, we may want to consider a 2nd trade up from #40.

    Might as well go all in for two top prospects. Give up the 4th and 5th to move up as high as we can or need to to get a ROT we feel can start day one. If that means kicking in a 2012 pick in the 3-5 range, so be it.

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