Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by ajk23az, Mar 12, 2012.
Austin's Year 2 base salary was $8.54 million.
Goodell is a human buzzkill
How much were the Cowboys under the cap prior to this garbage?
Just curious, while the Redskins got hit *huge*, I was wondering which team it will impact more.
cowboys can split the 10 million over the next two years, 2012 ,2013
Note to self: Remember to wait until Adam replies
This honestly makes me almost not want to even watch the NFL this year. If I wasn't such a Cowboys fan I can honestly say I'd likely not watch a single game this season.
There's a great chance I won't watch any of them outside of Cowboys games this year though.
Adam you don't make it easy to keep a cool head. lol
What'd they do wrong? Well, they apparently violated no actual rule but rather a behind-the-scenes guideline designed to keep the uncapped year from truly being uncapped.
While the 2010 season was an uncapped year, the NFL told teams not to use that as a means of eating up portions of long-term contracts in order to reduce cap room in future years. The Redskins and Cowboys and, to a lesser extent, the Raiders and Saints, were found to have done just this. As a result, not only do they lose this money, but every NFL team other than Oakland and New Orleans gets an additional $1.6 million in cap room. (The Saints and Raiders aren't docked any cap room, they just don't get to share in what the Redskins and Cowboys have to give back.)
This seems a pretty ridiculous thing for the league to do. Either the year is uncapped or it's not. To tell teams, "Yeah, it's uncapped, but don't spend too much this year just because of that, or we'll fine you for it down the road" feels a little bit like collusion to me. But this is the NFL, which does what it wants and makes up the rules as it goes along. The Cowboys and the Redskins surely know that, and the fact that they were the only two teams found to have engaged egregiously enough in this behavior to deserve a huge loss of salary-cap space indicates that they should have known better. I mean, when you're found to be dirtier than the Raiders and the Saints, you kind of have to look in the mirror and re-think the way you're doing business.
This and 15 other examples will be why this would not pass muster in court. The question is do the Cowboys and Redskins want to bother being painted as outlaws.
The other side of this is we waited to cut veterans when the bonus accelerated onto the cap. Had we done it in 2010 like many teams, we would have very little dead money. It seems to me that with the dead money we have by respecting the rules, we are being penalized on both ends.
Yup,was backing down from the edge, and now I'm cannon balling off the side
Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the teams were told “at least six times” during ownership-level meetings that there would be “serious consequences” for any team that used the uncapped year as an occasion to dump salaries.
The Cowboys and Redskins engaged in “systematic dumping” of salaries into the uncapped year, despite the warnings.
No, more to the point they want a cut.
Don't believe it was about dumping it was about front loading.
Aren't we the only expansion team that didn't get to participate in the draft prior to their inaugural season?
Yeah, so, I'm not shocked what the NFL does to us. You can blame Jerry Jones or fake moon landings if you like, but we've been unfairly singled out at times going back to 1960. History doesn't repeat; it rhymes.
If you include the tag for Spencer, you get something like $5M. Obviously, the Cowboys can opt to take the entire $10M in 2013 and they'd still have room to sign guys...
The Skins had $47M and if they take their lumps now, they'd end up with $11M in space (they just cut Atogwe and Sellers which supposedly freed up a couple mil). If the Skins distribute the hits equally, obviously there's ~$30M in cap space which is more than enough to do quite a bit without gutting the team or making knee-jerk restructure decisions.
Where is the legitimate 'systematic dumping' of salaries by Dallas?
Julius Peppers had a base salary of 20M.
It then dropped to 900K.
Now it's at 8.9M
How does that not count?
So what do you make of all this Adam?
Just quoting Florio. I think its safe to say he knows more about it than any of us.