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Twitter: NFL Salary Cap to rise to $133mil - Post #67

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by WoodysGirl, Feb 20, 2014.

  1. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    Very valid point.

    There are probably many teams in the same boat.
  2. Corso

    Corso Well-Known Member

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    That is very interesting.
    I'd like to know more about which teams are in this particular lurch and how they plan on alleviating it.
  3. RXP

    RXP Well-Known Member

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    Oakland, Jacksonville, Tampa Bay immediately come to mind. St. Louis? Perhaps. Minnesota? Perhaps. Maybe even Miami. Probably a few others.
  4. Snauty

    Snauty Active Member

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    Can someone explain this to me. I don't understand how they do not have the cash on hand, if they have that cap room. Are signing bonuses coming out of the pockets of the owners and then get reimbursed with the cap money?
  5. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    I don't think this is anywhere near a major factor. When all those teams are worth hundreds of millions of dollars it would not be hard to get a short term loan for 10 million or so. If they wanted to get a player and they have the cap space they CAN. Now some just want to run things as cheaply as possible so they choose NOT TO.
  6. RXP

    RXP Well-Known Member

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    Signing bonuses have to be paid up front when the player signs the deal. A player who has a $30M signing bonus gets a cheque from the owner and deposits the money in his bank. So the owner has to have the $30M on hand or the cheque bounces.

    All teams share TV revenues, but there are many revenue streams that are not shared, like gate revenues and merchandising among others. So lower profile teams can have significantly lower revenues than others. Things like private boxes are huge for teams. That's why lower revenue teams are always looking at building new stadiums, to increase their revenues.

    This is not an issue for big revenue teams like Dallas, Washington, NY, NE, etc. But some teams do not have the $30M in the bank to sign that free agent. So they have to pay out the money more slowly, through salaries. And the way the salary cap is calculated ,that leaves them with tons of cap space.
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  7. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Everything is everything... Staff Member

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  8. RXP

    RXP Well-Known Member

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    I remember when Clevelands old owner (whose name escapes me) left for Baltimore, this was a primary issue. He talked about how Dallas could give Deion Sanders a huge signing bonus, but he had to borrow $5M to sign guys he wanted. So he toook the team to Baltimore and their new stadium, got a good deal and remained competitive. And got 2 Super Bowls out of it.

    Borrowing money to pay players may be a short term band-aid, but over the long haul you won't be able to compete in the NFL. It's not the only issue, but it's is a huge problem for the Raiders and a primary reason they are annual league doormats.
  9. RXP

    RXP Well-Known Member

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    Actually, the biggest benefit for the Cowboys is that they won't have to push as much money forward through restructures. This rise in salary cap this year probably saves them from having to restructure Carr and/or Scandrick. That will give the team more breathing space in future years.
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  10. Corso

    Corso Well-Known Member

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    I have to say- you're at your best when you're not insulting people Burma.
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  11. Corso

    Corso Well-Known Member

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    Music to my ears...
  12. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    but some of you make it so attractive....
  13. CowboysFaninDC

    CowboysFaninDC Well-Known Member

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    good points. but we are right now in a rock and hard place.

    we know we can't win without a QB. we don't have room's replacement nor any plans at this point, given the multitude of needs. room's window is short (3 at most). so we have to get something done very quickly.

    I think Jerry's biggest mistake was to move from a 3-4 to a 4-3. a team in rebuilding mode makes a change of direction, not a team expecting to contend. now, we have to rebuild, because switching back is a mistake. so having a need all across DL, with limited high draft picks and a limited cap space (unlike redskins and a few others), makes it difficult. you need to hold on to what you have. thus the ware delimma....we went for years after Haley trying to find the next pass rusher and spent pick after pick and couldnt' find one, its one of the biggest gambles in draft (finding a passrushing 4-3 DE).

    if we think the window is only 3 years, then restructuring Ware's contract, turning some of the salary into bonus and extending the contract to limit the cap hit and yes, eating the dead cap money in the future, is an option that should be considered. otherwise, we might drop Ware, then need to draft one, because his replacement isn't on the roster, and it will take another 3 years to rebuild the defense and by then we need a QB, which we don't have. and QBs in the draft are a gamble anyway and the really good ones don't hit the market.
  14. AmishCowboy

    AmishCowboy if you ain't first, you're last

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    Believe it or not, that is one of the reasons why Pittsburgh is never a big player in FA
  15. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    That would be the smart move. To not burden future years with players who are currently in decline.

    Likely won't happen.
  16. Nation

    Nation Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Pittsburgh drafts and develops their own, that's the main reason the are not factors in free agency
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  17. AmishCowboy

    AmishCowboy if you ain't first, you're last

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    True, but they also don't have the cash on hand and they know it
  18. Nation

    Nation Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    They did do big money contracts with Roetlisberger, Woodley, Timmons, Antonio Brown, Heath Miller (12M+ guaranteed), Polamalu, Ike Taylor, etc though. You can only throw out so many contracts that have 8-10+ million in guaranteed money out there to make the cap work and field a team with backend depth.
  19. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    I doubt it's a money issue when it comes to signing people.

    Billionaires can buy a team for hundreds of millions.........can't give out $10M in signing bonuses.

    These people can always move money around. They're wealthy because they're smart enough to make their money work for them, not because they were living paycheck-to-paycheck and never acquiring anything.
  20. calicowboy54

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    Well thats awesome!!!! With the Carry over from last year we should be at 134million with 152 Million over the cap. need to Cut 18million

    if we Restructure these players we save this amount:

    NamePos.ASBase Salary
    {Guaranteed}Prorated
    BonusRoster
    BonusWorkout
    BonusCap
    NumberTransactionProjected
    Dead MoneyProjected
    Cap Gain/Loss

    Tony RomoQB11$13,500,000$13,500,000$8,273,000$0$0$21,773,000$0$10,036,000
    DeMarcus Ware34OLB9$12,250,000$3,253,750$0$500,000$16,003,750$0$8,546,250
    Brandon CarrCB6$7,500,000$4,717,000$0$0$12,217,000$0$5,077,500
    Jason WittenTE11$5,000,000$3,412,000$0$0$8,412,000$0$3,033,750
    Miles AustinWR8$5,500,000$2,749,400$0$0$8,249,400$2,749,400$5,500,000
    Sean LeeILB4$5,500,000$2,000,000$0$0$7,500,000$0$3,816,000
    Orlando ScandrickCB6$4,500,000$4,500,000$2,101,250$0$0$6,601,250$0$3,016,000
    So we CUT June 1st:
    Austin 5.5 Million Saved

    Restructure:
    Romo 10 Million Saved
    Ware 8.5 Million Saved
    Carr 5 Million Saved
    Witten 3 Million Saved
    Lee 3 Million Saved
    Oscan 3 Million Saved

    38 Million off the 152M leaves us 20 M under the Cap (Can Sign Who ever we want)
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