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Obama backs Bush on detainee rights

Discussion in 'Political Zone' started by irvin88, Feb 20, 2009.

  1. irvin88

    irvin88 Active Member

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    The president agreed with the Bush policy, saying detainees in Afghanistan have no constitutional rights.
  2. iceberg

    iceberg detoxed...part 2 Zone Supporter

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    but they do in gitmo?
  3. Bob Sacamano

    Bob Sacamano Benched

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    looks like Obama duped alot of people
  4. iceberg

    iceberg detoxed...part 2 Zone Supporter

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    there are certain highlights of american history that stand out. this will be one of them for so many reasons.

    we're ripe for change and even russia says don't go socalist.

    we seem to have too many people saying it can't happen here.

    but it is.
  5. TheCount

    TheCount Pixel Pusher

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    Is there a link of some sort so we can read what was actually said for ourselves and then judge?
  6. ThaBigP

    ThaBigP New Member

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  7. Beast_from_East

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    I dont think Obama actually said on the campaign trail that detainees in Afghanistan had constitutional rights.

    At least I dont remember him ever saying that, he mainly talked about closing Gitmo and not torturing the detainees any more. (that was code for no more waterboarding).



    So technically, I dont think Obama has broken any campaign promises. He has indeed closed Gitmo (within the next 12 months) and he has indeed banned any interrogation techniques not in the Army Field Manual. (Although some advanced tactics may be authorized for CIA interrogators in the future that are more robust than the field manual but not to the level of waterboarding.)


    Looks to me like Obama has kept his word on just about everything, I really dont see where he has contradicted himself. Now maybe some people thought he would go further than what he actually said, but that is a whole another matter.
  8. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    GITMO is not closed. So until it is....

    He was one of those claiming they did have rights and he did not restrict it just to GITMO, he was talking about them in general.
  9. Beast_from_East

    Beast_from_East Well-Known Member

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    But there is a difference between having "some rights" and having "constitutional rights".

    I never heard Obama say that detainees should have the same constitutional rights as American citizens. I dont think he ever said that on the campaign trail.
  10. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    Lots of Democrats have and did. He did not come out and say they did not have those rights either.
  11. ninja

    ninja Numbnuts

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    It is all over the net and easy to find. Did you try google?

    You are a big Obama apologist, probably the #1 Obama apologist here. Have fun explaining the actions of this chump president.

    The silence from the Left is deafening. Bush is gone, no one to blame anymore. Can't blame Obama for anything. I love it. Finally, the Leftwing nutjobs have to shut their mouths.
  12. SkinsFan28

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    Here is a good website:
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/

    seems like he is keeping most, but i will say i told two big Obama supporters here that he was sending troops to Afghanistan, and they were upset, cuz they thought he was bringing them home. Sometimes saying he kept a promise (troops leaving iraq) only tells half the story(troops going to afghanistan).
    AND, IMO, alot of times, the second half of the story (for example the huge tax burden all of these recovery plans are putting on us) is never even told, or not told with conviction.
  13. ThaBigP

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    Bip on the Obama supporters upset about a troop surge in Afghan. Obama SAID that's what he would do during the campaign! It was a cornerstone of his campaign and his base...the idea we diverted our attention needlessly towards Iraq and in so doing neglected Afghanistan, and we need to focus on Afghanistan.. It's just more proof positive that Obama supporters cared not a whiff what he said. They only heard what they *wanted* to hear. They used him as a screen onto which they could project all of the hopes, dreams, and fantasies. Textbook cult-of-personality, created by the supporters. Edit: I'd like to clarify, the hard-core, wacked completely out of their mind supporters. The screamers and fainters at his rallies. The "Oh my God!Oh my God! Thank you JEEEEEZUSSS! for your presense!" types (see video for example)

    [youtube]TptsP4ryido[/youtube]
  14. TheCount

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    haha, you don't know jack about me buddy, why pretend you do?

    Just like the left wing nutjobs cried and moaned when Bush was president, all I see is a bunch of right wing nutjobs doing the same thing now, so I'm not surprised, just amused.
  15. ThaBigP

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    My God...I got curious as to the shirt the hyperventilating arseclown in the video was wearing...*something* Obama on the front. Got a good shot...it's T-Shirt with Martin Luther King's, and Barak Obama's names and images...but the curious bit is that the names are deliberately aligned and the last names set side-by-side so they spell out "King Obama".

    Just nice.
  16. iceberg

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    if he's been at mcdonalds for 4 1/2 years cause he can't find another job, no amount of education can save him. and he wants the government to force his company to give him more.

    nice.
  17. ThaBigP

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    Word from those who patronize the McDonald's where he works is that he works only part-time. So factor that into the outrage equation.
  18. ninja

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    That video was hilarious. There is your typical Obama idiot-voter. He wants to major in communications so he can be a "reporter or DJ."

    The idiot looks like a druggie. Maybe he could become a rapper. Draft that chump and send him to Afghanistan.
  19. ThaBigP

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    Did you notice when Obama gave him an "atta boy" for ... ahem ... holding a job, mr "King Obama" looked like he started flashing signs and raising his hands to heaven to shower himself with mad props? This, my friends, is the product of a society that hands out trophies just for showing up.
  20. ninja

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    Was that dude just plain stupid or was he stoned? Or both? And how did that idiot get into college? Let me guess community college.

    And to think, some of us are relying on idiots like that for our social security. Forget it. I'll have to work until I die.

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